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Mr Lisle
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Chris Murray vs. Chris Murray

Post by Mr Lisle » Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:22 am

I think a more telling comparison is Chris Murray the 17-18 year-old not ready true freshman, rushed in when the 3 quarterbacks in front of him either left the program or didn't work out, vs Chris Murray the 18-19 year-old, still learning true sophmore with a season behind him.

Murray #1, 2016...pass attempts 105, comp 47, 44.8%, 778 yards, 8 int, 7 sacks, 860 rush, 6.2 avg, 12 TD, QBR 110.6
Murray #2, 2017...pass attempts 233, comp 120 51.5%, 1597 yds, 9 int, 12 saks, 1124 rush 5.9 avg, 10 TD, QBR 122.6

I believe Murray will be very ready this year. With a guy like this passing games can be manufactured.



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Re: Chris Murray vs. Chris Murray

Post by Catsrgrood » Sun Apr 29, 2018 2:28 pm

I agree. This is kind of what I’ve been saying too. We don’t need Murray to pass for 3500 yds. If he takes a similar jump this year, maybe a little bit more, combined with his running ability, the offense should be a pretty good unit. Scoring 35 pts a game? No. But hopefully enough to win a few more games this year when paired with a strong defense.



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Re: Chris Murray vs. Chris Murray

Post by The MICKSTER » Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:57 am

In addition to the reasons mentioned, Chris Murray's improvement from his FR year to his SO year occurred when the teams competition level increased as well. An OL w/4 returning starters + depth and the addition of Bob Cole should be good for a few % points increase in Passing Efficiency also. I could see 140 being attainable but a long shot.

Also this year there will be Travis Jonsen 'pushing' for time and reps which doesn't hurt the cause either. Last year Case Cookus only had a 131 Pass Efficiency rating. GO CATS!



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Re: Chris Murray vs. Chris Murray

Post by iaafan » Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:53 pm

You left his TD passes out.
2016: 47-105-8, 778 yards and 6 TDs 110.6
2017: 120-233-9 1597 yards and 15 TDs 122.6

That good improvement, especially considering the tough defenses he faced. Wazzu, SDSU, Weber, Kennesaw and NAU.



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Re: Chris Murray vs. Chris Murray

Post by iaafan » Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:25 pm

I broke down Murray by five game blocks vs FCS teams. He started the last 15, game off the bench in first five.

2016, first five: 14-36-1, 242 yards, 0 TDs. 40% complete, 92.4 passer rating.
2016, second five: 32-69-7, 532 yards, 6 TDs. 46%, 119.5 rating.
2017, third five: 58-114-4, 753 yards, 9 TDs. 51%, 125.4 rating.
2017, last five: 57-107-4, 816 yards, 6 TDs. 53%, 128.4 rating.

Improvement isn’t spectacular, but it is steady. He had the one bad game in the last four vs Kennesaw, compared to three in the third five and four in the second five, so he’s also getting more consistent. Throw out the Kennesaw game and his percentage is 58% and his rating is 136.9.

Based on those numbers I think you could see him over 130 in his rating and 55% completions in 2018. That combined with a good run game, defense and special teams is a formula for success.



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Re: Chris Murray vs. Chris Murray

Post by TomCat88 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:39 pm

iaafan wrote:I broke down Murray by five game blocks vs FCS teams. He started the last 15, game off the bench in first five.

2016, first five: 14-36-1, 242 yards, 0 TDs. 40% complete, 92.4 passer rating.
2016, second five: 32-69-7, 532 yards, 6 TDs. 46%, 119.5 rating.
2017, third five: 58-114-4, 753 yards, 9 TDs. 51%, 125.4 rating.
2017, last five: 57-107-4, 816 yards, 6 TDs. 53%, 128.4 rating.

Improvement isn’t spectacular, but it is steady. He had the one bad game in the last four vs Kennesaw, compared to three in the third five and four in the second five, so he’s also getting more consistent. Throw out the Kennesaw game and his percentage is 58% and his rating is 136.9.

Based on those numbers I think you could see him over 130 in his rating and 55% completions in 2018. That combined with a good run game, defense and special teams is a formula for success.
The thing that sticks out the most to me is the consistency part.


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