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Re: Troy Andersen

Post by 91catAlum » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:42 am

Hawks86 wrote:I'd give him full time reps at LB this spring.
Idk. Would be nice to play him everywhere... But a stud player like that needs the ball in his hands IMO.


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Re: Troy Andersen

Post by mslacatfan » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:47 am

Pretty sure this thread might break the all time record and hit about 75 pages by next august..... ha.

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Re: Troy Andersen

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seataccat wrote:Yes, the kid is a freak athlete, but he is not going to be a super running back but he will be a steller defensive player, make him a lb or a thumper safety.
Disagree, that kid's speed when he turns the corner is flat out scary. He'd make a great RB!
Agreed. Not sure how you can say he wouldn't be a super back when he ran for 500 yards in limited action.
Yep, and scored 2 TDs as a true freshman on the biggest stage possible at MSU.
Kids the real deal.
I would guess Troy will add 15 to 20lbs of muscle in the offseason. Can you imagine what it would be like trying to tackle a high speed train?

My vote is RB!



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Re: Troy Andersen

Post by Hawks86 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:58 am

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Hawks86 wrote:I'd give him full time reps at LB this spring.
Idk. Would be nice to play him everywhere... But a stud player like that needs the ball in his hands IMO.
Sure. I just think he needs more reps at the LB position this spring. I don't think it fully plays out until next fall.


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Re: Troy Andersen

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85CatGrad wrote:
91catAlum wrote:
BleedingBLue wrote:
91catAlum wrote:
seataccat wrote:Yes, the kid is a freak athlete, but he is not going to be a super running back but he will be a steller defensive player, make him a lb or a thumper safety.
Disagree, that kid's speed when he turns the corner is flat out scary. He'd make a great RB!
Agreed. Not sure how you can say he wouldn't be a super back when he ran for 500 yards in limited action.
Yep, and scored 2 TDs as a true freshman on the biggest stage possible at MSU.
Kids the real deal.
I would guess Troy will add 15 to 20lbs of muscle in the offseason. Can you imagine what it would be like trying to tackle a high speed train?

My vote is RB!
I think what they did with him Saturday at RB is perfect. On the field for a good amount of plays, but not making him the feature back. He could definitely play both ways in that case, and be a beast on both sides of the ball.



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Re: Troy Andersen

Post by exppi » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:27 am

85CatGrad wrote:I would guess Troy will add 15 to 20lbs of muscle in the offseason. Can you imagine what it would be like trying to tackle a high speed train?

My vote is RB!
Not just him. A number of these guys are going to benefit from some college weight room time and be forces to be reckoned with.

If Troy can keep his speed and bulk up some =P~



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Re: Troy Andersen

Post by 91catAlum » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:32 am

Hawks86 wrote:
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Hawks86 wrote:I'd give him full time reps at LB this spring.
Idk. Would be nice to play him everywhere... But a stud player like that needs the ball in his hands IMO.
Sure. I just think he needs more reps at the LB position this spring. I don't think it fully plays out until next fall.
Gotcha. Yes I agree with that!


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Re: Troy Andersen

Post by bobcat99 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:43 am

If our RB's can stay healthy, I would expect him at LB.

He'll have a few package plays on offense though. So hopefully our RB's stay healthy.



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Post by Colter_Nuanez » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:53 am

As someone who keeps close tabs on the entire Big Sky Conference, Troy Andersen is the most physically stunning blend of size and speed in the entire league and that's as a true freshman from a Montanan Class A school playing running back for the first time in his entire life. He rushed for 515 yards and five touchdowns — North Dakota workhorse Brady Oliveira rushed for 637 yards and 3 TDs for comparison sake — and he didn't even practice with the offense the second half of the season.

Troy Andersen out ran Josh Buss on at least three different occasions on Saturday. When they run the speed option with him, if you kick out the corner and the timing on the pitch is right, you literally can't stop it. He runs the toss sweep and the speed option like the state champion 200 runner he was in high school. His ability to turn the corner is absolutely astounding. I understand that has the athleticism to be an All-Big Sky linebacker and that Choate will have a hard time of convincing Ty Gregorak to not use him on defense. But I think it would be foolish to not play him on offense. With further development, I think he could be truly unstoppable because, well, he basically already is.



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Re: Troy Andersen

Post by BleedingBLue » Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:05 am

Colter_Nuanez wrote:As someone who keeps close tabs on the entire Big Sky Conference, Troy Andersen is the most physically stunning blend of size and speed in the entire league and that's as a true freshman from a Montanan Class A school playing running back for the first time in his entire life. He rushed for 515 yards and five touchdowns — North Dakota workhorse Brady Oliveira rushed for 637 yards and 3 TDs for comparison sake — and he didn't even practice with the offense the second half of the season.

Troy Andersen out ran Josh Buss on at least three different occasions on Saturday. When they run the speed option with him, if you kick out the corner and the timing on the pitch is right, you literally can't stop it. He runs the toss sweep and the speed option like the state champion 200 runner he was in high school. His ability to turn the corner is absolutely astounding. I understand that has the athleticism to be an All-Big Sky linebacker and that Choate will have a hard time of convincing Ty Gregorak to not use him on defense. But I think it would be foolish to not play him on offense. With further development, I think he could be truly unstoppable because, well, he basically already is.
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What a great problem to have. :thumbup:


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https://twitter.com/MSUBobcats/status/932744096367693824 Now a finalist.


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VimSince03 wrote:https://twitter.com/MSUBobcats/status/932744096367693824 Now a finalist.
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Re: Troy Andersen

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Colter_Nuanez wrote:As someone who keeps close tabs on the entire Big Sky Conference, Troy Andersen is the most physically stunning blend of size and speed in the entire league and that's as a true freshman from a Montanan Class A school playing running back for the first time in his entire life. He rushed for 515 yards and five touchdowns — North Dakota workhorse Brady Oliveira rushed for 637 yards and 3 TDs for comparison sake — and he didn't even practice with the offense the second half of the season.

Troy Andersen out ran Josh Buss on at least three different occasions on Saturday. When they run the speed option with him, if you kick out the corner and the timing on the pitch is right, you literally can't stop it. He runs the toss sweep and the speed option like the state champion 200 runner he was in high school. His ability to turn the corner is absolutely astounding. I understand that has the athleticism to be an All-Big Sky linebacker and that Choate will have a hard time of convincing Ty Gregorak to not use him on defense. But I think it would be foolish to not play him on offense. With further development, I think he could be truly unstoppable because, well, he basically already is.
Just very much agree here ~ very rare offensive threat at this level


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Re: Troy Andersen

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Colter_Nuanez wrote:As someone who keeps close tabs on the entire Big Sky Conference, Troy Andersen is the most physically stunning blend of size and speed in the entire league and that's as a true freshman from a Montanan Class A school playing running back for the first time in his entire life. He rushed for 515 yards and five touchdowns — North Dakota workhorse Brady Oliveira rushed for 637 yards and 3 TDs for comparison sake — and he didn't even practice with the offense the second half of the season.

Troy Andersen out ran Josh Buss on at least three different occasions on Saturday. When they run the speed option with him, if you kick out the corner and the timing on the pitch is right, you literally can't stop it. He runs the toss sweep and the speed option like the state champion 200 runner he was in high school. His ability to turn the corner is absolutely astounding. I understand that has the athleticism to be an All-Big Sky linebacker and that Choate will have a hard time of convincing Ty Gregorak to not use him on defense. But I think it would be foolish to not play him on offense. With further development, I think he could be truly unstoppable because, well, he basically already is.
I’m not a football technician by any means and I clearly picked up on that in the second quarter. I thought for sure they would continue to make hay with that in the second half but it was completely abandoned.


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Cledus wrote:
Colter_Nuanez wrote:As someone who keeps close tabs on the entire Big Sky Conference, Troy Andersen is the most physically stunning blend of size and speed in the entire league and that's as a true freshman from a Montanan Class A school playing running back for the first time in his entire life. He rushed for 515 yards and five touchdowns — North Dakota workhorse Brady Oliveira rushed for 637 yards and 3 TDs for comparison sake — and he didn't even practice with the offense the second half of the season.

Troy Andersen out ran Josh Buss on at least three different occasions on Saturday. When they run the speed option with him, if you kick out the corner and the timing on the pitch is right, you literally can't stop it. He runs the toss sweep and the speed option like the state champion 200 runner he was in high school. His ability to turn the corner is absolutely astounding. I understand that has the athleticism to be an All-Big Sky linebacker and that Choate will have a hard time of convincing Ty Gregorak to not use him on defense. But I think it would be foolish to not play him on offense. With further development, I think he could be truly unstoppable because, well, he basically already is.
I’m not a football technician by any means and I clearly picked up on that in the second quarter. I thought for sure they would continue to make hay with that in the second half but it was completely abandoned.
Yeah, I was stunned that for all the success that option pitch to Anderson had in the first half, we saw none of it in the second. As we're trying to pound the football up the middle and the continual quarterback keepers......The griz did nothing to even begin to slow that option and Anderson's speed once he makes the corner. Why did we completely abandon that?


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KittieKop wrote:
Cledus wrote:
Colter_Nuanez wrote:As someone who keeps close tabs on the entire Big Sky Conference, Troy Andersen is the most physically stunning blend of size and speed in the entire league and that's as a true freshman from a Montanan Class A school playing running back for the first time in his entire life. He rushed for 515 yards and five touchdowns — North Dakota workhorse Brady Oliveira rushed for 637 yards and 3 TDs for comparison sake — and he didn't even practice with the offense the second half of the season.

Troy Andersen out ran Josh Buss on at least three different occasions on Saturday. When they run the speed option with him, if you kick out the corner and the timing on the pitch is right, you literally can't stop it. He runs the toss sweep and the speed option like the state champion 200 runner he was in high school. His ability to turn the corner is absolutely astounding. I understand that has the athleticism to be an All-Big Sky linebacker and that Choate will have a hard time of convincing Ty Gregorak to not use him on defense. But I think it would be foolish to not play him on offense. With further development, I think he could be truly unstoppable because, well, he basically already is.
I’m not a football technician by any means and I clearly picked up on that in the second quarter. I thought for sure they would continue to make hay with that in the second half but it was completely abandoned.
Yeah, I was stunned that for all the success that option pitch to Anderson had in the first half, we saw none of it in the second. As we're trying to pound the football up the middle and the continual quarterback keepers......The griz did nothing to even begin to slow that option and Anderson's speed once he makes the corner. Why did we completely abandon that?
Because that's what we did all year. We never repeated things we did successfully on offense. Instead of passing on 3rd and 6 with 2 mins to go we should have run a speed option, or any run play for that matter. But instead we stopped the clock with an incomplete pass, preserving the Griz final TO.



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Re: Troy Andersen

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BleedingBLue wrote:
KittieKop wrote:
Cledus wrote:
Colter_Nuanez wrote:As someone who keeps close tabs on the entire Big Sky Conference, Troy Andersen is the most physically stunning blend of size and speed in the entire league and that's as a true freshman from a Montanan Class A school playing running back for the first time in his entire life. He rushed for 515 yards and five touchdowns — North Dakota workhorse Brady Oliveira rushed for 637 yards and 3 TDs for comparison sake — and he didn't even practice with the offense the second half of the season.

Troy Andersen out ran Josh Buss on at least three different occasions on Saturday. When they run the speed option with him, if you kick out the corner and the timing on the pitch is right, you literally can't stop it. He runs the toss sweep and the speed option like the state champion 200 runner he was in high school. His ability to turn the corner is absolutely astounding. I understand that has the athleticism to be an All-Big Sky linebacker and that Choate will have a hard time of convincing Ty Gregorak to not use him on defense. But I think it would be foolish to not play him on offense. With further development, I think he could be truly unstoppable because, well, he basically already is.
I’m not a football technician by any means and I clearly picked up on that in the second quarter. I thought for sure they would continue to make hay with that in the second half but it was completely abandoned.
Yeah, I was stunned that for all the success that option pitch to Anderson had in the first half, we saw none of it in the second. As we're trying to pound the football up the middle and the continual quarterback keepers......The griz did nothing to even begin to slow that option and Anderson's speed once he makes the corner. Why did we completely abandon that?
Because that's what we did all year. We never repeated things we did successfully on offense. Instead of passing on 3rd and 6 with 2 mins to go we should have run a speed option, or any run play for that matter. But instead we stopped the clock with an incomplete pass, preserving the Griz final TO.
People talk about making adjustments, but usually its making adjustments to make something work. I think our problem all year was exactly the opposite. We found things that worked, but it seemed like there was script or something - players had to get a certain number of touches, someone had to get minutes, there was something we put in the playbook that we just absolutely had to get in the game with no regards to what was actually working. We didn't make adjustments to the game plan to allow for continuing to do the things that were successful. The win was great no doubt, but we squandered 4th quarter opportunities that led to the game being closer than it actually was or needed to be.


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Re: Troy Andersen

Post by BelgradeBobcat » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:00 pm

KittieKop wrote:
BleedingBLue wrote:
KittieKop wrote:
Cledus wrote:
Colter_Nuanez wrote:As someone who keeps close tabs on the entire Big Sky Conference, Troy Andersen is the most physically stunning blend of size and speed in the entire league and that's as a true freshman from a Montanan Class A school playing running back for the first time in his entire life. He rushed for 515 yards and five touchdowns — North Dakota workhorse Brady Oliveira rushed for 637 yards and 3 TDs for comparison sake — and he didn't even practice with the offense the second half of the season.

Troy Andersen out ran Josh Buss on at least three different occasions on Saturday. When they run the speed option with him, if you kick out the corner and the timing on the pitch is right, you literally can't stop it. He runs the toss sweep and the speed option like the state champion 200 runner he was in high school. His ability to turn the corner is absolutely astounding. I understand that has the athleticism to be an All-Big Sky linebacker and that Choate will have a hard time of convincing Ty Gregorak to not use him on defense. But I think it would be foolish to not play him on offense. With further development, I think he could be truly unstoppable because, well, he basically already is.
I’m not a football technician by any means and I clearly picked up on that in the second quarter. I thought for sure they would continue to make hay with that in the second half but it was completely abandoned.
Yeah, I was stunned that for all the success that option pitch to Anderson had in the first half, we saw none of it in the second. As we're trying to pound the football up the middle and the continual quarterback keepers......The griz did nothing to even begin to slow that option and Anderson's speed once he makes the corner. Why did we completely abandon that?
Because that's what we did all year. We never repeated things we did successfully on offense. Instead of passing on 3rd and 6 with 2 mins to go we should have run a speed option, or any run play for that matter. But instead we stopped the clock with an incomplete pass, preserving the Griz final TO.
People talk about making adjustments, but usually its making adjustments to make something work. I think our problem all year was exactly the opposite. We found things that worked, but it seemed like there was script or something - players had to get a certain number of touches, someone had to get minutes, there was something we put in the playbook that we just absolutely had to get in the game with no regards to what was actually working. We didn't make adjustments to the game plan to allow for continuing to do the things that were successful. The win was great no doubt, but we squandered 4th quarter opportunities that led to the game being closer than it actually was or needed to be.
Y'all have articulated what I was wondering. Why did we go away from Andersen in the 4th quarter? Maybe it was because pitching the ball does have certain amount of risk to it? Not putting them away tainted this wonderful win ever so slightly. We should have avalanched them instead of holding on by our fingernails.

In any case regarding the future of young Mr. Andersen: There's an old saying, "Offense sells tickets. Defense wins championships. But selling lots of tickets gets super cool football facilities built that helps us recruit even better players which will win us championships." Or something like that. The value of a kid from Dillon, Montana scoring lots of touchdowns for this program cannot be overstated. I think we need to find a talent almost as good as Andersen to play linebacker and then give Troy the ball.



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Post by GoldstoneCat » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:27 pm

Colter_Nuanez wrote:As someone who keeps close tabs on the entire Big Sky Conference, Troy Andersen is the most physically stunning blend of size and speed in the entire league and that's as a true freshman from a Montanan Class A school playing running back for the first time in his entire life. He rushed for 515 yards and five touchdowns — North Dakota workhorse Brady Oliveira rushed for 637 yards and 3 TDs for comparison sake — and he didn't even practice with the offense the second half of the season.

Troy Andersen out ran Josh Buss on at least three different occasions on Saturday. When they run the speed option with him, if you kick out the corner and the timing on the pitch is right, you literally can't stop it. He runs the toss sweep and the speed option like the state champion 200 runner he was in high school. His ability to turn the corner is absolutely astounding. I understand that has the athleticism to be an All-Big Sky linebacker and that Choate will have a hard time of convincing Ty Gregorak to not use him on defense. But I think it would be foolish to not play him on offense. With further development, I think he could be truly unstoppable because, well, he basically already is.
Agree x100. If we are going to develop into the type of team Choate wants, we need a back like troy to be the leader of it. With a winter and spring in the weight room, he can turn into a dominant, run finishing force, in addition to his great speed.



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