Polian out at Nevada

[91catAlum]

Ash/Cramsey reunite at uc Davis?


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O I could definitely see it, and it's a real possibility.

I don't know... it always seemed like a bit of a personality conflict, plus I think Cramsey wants to be a head coach, so he'll likely be throwing his resume out there. Assuming he can't stay at Nevada.

[exppi]

I always wonder how long Baldwin will stay in Cheney. Especially with so much talent leaving this year.


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I pray and hope Baldwin takes the job at Nevada

Speculation- but if Helfrich gets the boot at UO, I could see Baldwin going there. But for some reason he's stayed at Eastern for a long time.

I think Oregon has their eyes on someone higher . . . They can pay A TON and would have a lot of coaches looking at them. But I suppose it is possible. I think Baldwin to Nevada is entirely possible though. Would be a good hire by them.

Like Chip Kelly?

That is one of the rumors swirling. Uncle Phil has a big pocketbook.

[LongTimeCatFan]

Ash/Cramsey reunite at uc Davis?


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O I could definitely see it, and it's a real possibility.

I don't know... it always seemed like a bit of a personality conflict, plus I think Cramsey wants to be a head coach, so he'll likely be throwing his resume out there. Assuming he can't stay at Nevada.

It's more than that. The decline of MSU under Ash can be traced back to when Cramsey came on board.

The lesson learned that you cannot win by explosive offense alone and thereby sacrificing your defense won't soon be forgotten. If I was Ash, I would steer clear of Cramsey like the plague.

[wbtfg]

Ash/Cramsey reunite at uc Davis?


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O I could definitely see it, and it's a real possibility.

I don't know... it always seemed like a bit of a personality conflict, plus I think Cramsey wants to be a head coach, so he'll likely be throwing his resume out there. Assuming he can't stay at Nevada.

It's more than that. The decline of MSU under Ash can be traced back to when Cramsey came on board.

The lesson learned that you cannot win by explosive offense alone and thereby sacrificing your defense won't soon be forgotten. If I was Ash, I would steer clear of Cramsey like the plague.

I don't know....I think Marshall let ash down more than cramsey. Hard to be too mad at a guy who orchestrated an offense that scored 45+ points/game.


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[LongTimeCatFan]

Ash/Cramsey reunite at uc Davis?


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O I could definitely see it, and it's a real possibility.

I don't know... it always seemed like a bit of a personality conflict, plus I think Cramsey wants to be a head coach, so he'll likely be throwing his resume out there. Assuming he can't stay at Nevada.

It's more than that. The decline of MSU under Ash can be traced back to when Cramsey came on board.

The lesson learned that you cannot win by explosive offense alone and thereby sacrificing your defense won't soon be forgotten. If I was Ash, I would steer clear of Cramsey like the plague.

I don't know....I think Marshall let ash down more than cramsey. Hard to be too mad at a guy who orchestrated an offense that scored 45+ points/game.


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After time to reflect, I think that's why he never let Marshall go. The problem really wasn't Marshall. It was Cramsey's offense. Don't forget most of those points came in garbage time

[91catAlum]

Ash/Cramsey reunite at uc Davis?


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O I could definitely see it, and it's a real possibility.

I don't know... it always seemed like a bit of a personality conflict, plus I think Cramsey wants to be a head coach, so he'll likely be throwing his resume out there. Assuming he can't stay at Nevada.

It's more than that. The decline of MSU under Ash can be traced back to when Cramsey came on board.

The lesson learned that you cannot win by explosive offense alone and thereby sacrificing your defense won't soon be forgotten. If I was Ash, I would steer clear of Cramsey like the plague.

I don't know....I think Marshall let ash down more than cramsey. Hard to be too mad at a guy who orchestrated an offense that scored 45+ points/game.


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After time to reflect, I think that's why he never let Marshall go. The problem really wasn't Marshall. It was Cramsey's offense. Don't forget most of those points came in garbage time

There's some cause and effect there, sure, but at the end of the day, Cramsey had a top 5 offense in the country, and Marshall had a bottom 5 defense.
And Bozeman wasn't Cramsey's first job. He's got a history of very solid offenses.

[LongTimeCatFan]

Ash/Cramsey reunite at uc Davis?


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O I could definitely see it, and it's a real possibility.

I don't know... it always seemed like a bit of a personality conflict, plus I think Cramsey wants to be a head coach, so he'll likely be throwing his resume out there. Assuming he can't stay at Nevada.

It's more than that. The decline of MSU under Ash can be traced back to when Cramsey came on board.

The lesson learned that you cannot win by explosive offense alone and thereby sacrificing your defense won't soon be forgotten. If I was Ash, I would steer clear of Cramsey like the plague.

I don't know....I think Marshall let ash down more than cramsey. Hard to be too mad at a guy who orchestrated an offense that scored 45+ points/game.


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After time to reflect, I think that's why he never let Marshall go. The problem really wasn't Marshall. It was Cramsey's offense. Don't forget most of those points came in garbage time

There's some cause and effect there, sure, but at the end of the day, Cramsey had a top 5 offense in the country, and Marshall had a bottom 5 defense.
And Bozeman wasn't Cramsey's first job. He's got a history of very solid offenses.

It either scored too fast or was ineffective against good defenses. It put entirely too much pressure our own defense.

[91catAlum]

Ash/Cramsey reunite at uc Davis?


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O I could definitely see it, and it's a real possibility.

I don't know... it always seemed like a bit of a personality conflict, plus I think Cramsey wants to be a head coach, so he'll likely be throwing his resume out there. Assuming he can't stay at Nevada.

It's more than that. The decline of MSU under Ash can be traced back to when Cramsey came on board.

The lesson learned that you cannot win by explosive offense alone and thereby sacrificing your defense won't soon be forgotten. If I was Ash, I would steer clear of Cramsey like the plague.

I don't know....I think Marshall let ash down more than cramsey. Hard to be too mad at a guy who orchestrated an offense that scored 45+ points/game.


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After time to reflect, I think that's why he never let Marshall go. The problem really wasn't Marshall. It was Cramsey's offense. Don't forget most of those points came in garbage time

There's some cause and effect there, sure, but at the end of the day, Cramsey had a top 5 offense in the country, and Marshall had a bottom 5 defense.
And Bozeman wasn't Cramsey's first job. He's got a history of very solid offenses.

It either scored too fast or was ineffective against good defenses. It put entirely too much pressure our own defense.

OK. You're starting a new team today, and you have to have either Cramsey as your OC, or Marshall your DC. Who you picking?

[LongTimeCatFan]

Ash/Cramsey reunite at uc Davis?


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O I could definitely see it, and it's a real possibility.

I don't know... it always seemed like a bit of a personality conflict, plus I think Cramsey wants to be a head coach, so he'll likely be throwing his resume out there. Assuming he can't stay at Nevada.

It's more than that. The decline of MSU under Ash can be traced back to when Cramsey came on board.

The lesson learned that you cannot win by explosive offense alone and thereby sacrificing your defense won't soon be forgotten. If I was Ash, I would steer clear of Cramsey like the plague.

I don't know....I think Marshall let ash down more than cramsey. Hard to be too mad at a guy who orchestrated an offense that scored 45+ points/game.


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After time to reflect, I think that's why he never let Marshall go. The problem really wasn't Marshall. It was Cramsey's offense. Don't forget most of those points came in garbage time

There's some cause and effect there, sure, but at the end of the day, Cramsey had a top 5 offense in the country, and Marshall had a bottom 5 defense.
And Bozeman wasn't Cramsey's first job. He's got a history of very solid offenses.

It either scored too fast or was ineffective against good defenses. It put entirely too much pressure our own defense.

OK. You're starting a new team today, and you have to have either Cramsey as your OC, or Marshall your DC. Who you picking?

Call me crazy, but Marshall. I want as far away as possible from that offense. It does nothing for the team as a whole.

[91catAlum]

Ash/Cramsey reunite at uc Davis?


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O I could definitely see it, and it's a real possibility.

I don't know... it always seemed like a bit of a personality conflict, plus I think Cramsey wants to be a head coach, so he'll likely be throwing his resume out there. Assuming he can't stay at Nevada.

It's more than that. The decline of MSU under Ash can be traced back to when Cramsey came on board.

The lesson learned that you cannot win by explosive offense alone and thereby sacrificing your defense won't soon be forgotten. If I was Ash, I would steer clear of Cramsey like the plague.

I don't know....I think Marshall let ash down more than cramsey. Hard to be too mad at a guy who orchestrated an offense that scored 45+ points/game.


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After time to reflect, I think that's why he never let Marshall go. The problem really wasn't Marshall. It was Cramsey's offense. Don't forget most of those points came in garbage time

There's some cause and effect there, sure, but at the end of the day, Cramsey had a top 5 offense in the country, and Marshall had a bottom 5 defense.
And Bozeman wasn't Cramsey's first job. He's got a history of very solid offenses.

It either scored too fast or was ineffective against good defenses. It put entirely too much pressure our own defense.

OK. You're starting a new team today, and you have to have either Cramsey as your OC, or Marshall your DC. Who you picking?

Call me crazy, but Marshall. I want as far away as possible from that offense. It does nothing for the team as a whole.

You're crazy.

[Hi-Line Bobcat]

Ash/Cramsey reunite at uc Davis?


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O I could definitely see it, and it's a real possibility.

I don't know... it always seemed like a bit of a personality conflict, plus I think Cramsey wants to be a head coach, so he'll likely be throwing his resume out there. Assuming he can't stay at Nevada.

It's more than that. The decline of MSU under Ash can be traced back to when Cramsey came on board.

The lesson learned that you cannot win by explosive offense alone and thereby sacrificing your defense won't soon be forgotten. If I was Ash, I would steer clear of Cramsey like the plague.

I don't know....I think Marshall let ash down more than cramsey. Hard to be too mad at a guy who orchestrated an offense that scored 45+ points/game.


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100% correct. I would take cramsey right now over Messingham in a heart beat, the stats back that up, across the board.

[LongTimeCatFan]

O I could definitely see it, and it's a real possibility.

I don't know... it always seemed like a bit of a personality conflict, plus I think Cramsey wants to be a head coach, so he'll likely be throwing his resume out there. Assuming he can't stay at Nevada.

It's more than that. The decline of MSU under Ash can be traced back to when Cramsey came on board.

The lesson learned that you cannot win by explosive offense alone and thereby sacrificing your defense won't soon be forgotten. If I was Ash, I would steer clear of Cramsey like the plague.

I don't know....I think Marshall let ash down more than cramsey. Hard to be too mad at a guy who orchestrated an offense that scored 45+ points/game.


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After time to reflect, I think that's why he never let Marshall go. The problem really wasn't Marshall. It was Cramsey's offense. Don't forget most of those points came in garbage time

There's some cause and effect there, sure, but at the end of the day, Cramsey had a top 5 offense in the country, and Marshall had a bottom 5 defense.
And Bozeman wasn't Cramsey's first job. He's got a history of very solid offenses.

It either scored too fast or was ineffective against good defenses. It put entirely too much pressure our own defense.

OK. You're starting a new team today, and you have to have either Cramsey as your OC, or Marshall your DC. Who you picking?

Call me crazy, but Marshall. I want as far away as possible from that offense. It does nothing for the team as a whole.

You're crazy.

I'm ok with that [emoji12]

[LongTimeCatFan]

Ash/Cramsey reunite at uc Davis?


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O I could definitely see it, and it's a real possibility.

I don't know... it always seemed like a bit of a personality conflict, plus I think Cramsey wants to be a head coach, so he'll likely be throwing his resume out there. Assuming he can't stay at Nevada.

It's more than that. The decline of MSU under Ash can be traced back to when Cramsey came on board.

The lesson learned that you cannot win by explosive offense alone and thereby sacrificing your defense won't soon be forgotten. If I was Ash, I would steer clear of Cramsey like the plague.

I don't know....I think Marshall let ash down more than cramsey. Hard to be too mad at a guy who orchestrated an offense that scored 45+ points/game.


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100% correct. I would take cramsey right now over Messingham in a heart beat, the stats back that up, across the board.

Yeah... Stats are for losers

[BroncoCat]

this is cramsey's 3rd staff firing in 6 years. his briiliant offensive mind cant keep a job.
our team chemistry came apart when he came on board. he is a hack and will be selling insurance within 2 years

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this is cramsey's 3rd staff firing in 6 years. his briiliant offensive mind cant keep a job.
our team chemistry came apart when he came on board. he is a hack and will be selling insurance within 2 years

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And Marshall is DL coach at a 3-8 D2 school.

Reminds me of trump/hillary debate. Haha.


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[BroncoCat]

this is cramsey's 3rd staff firing in 6 years. his briiliant offensive mind cant keep a job.
our team chemistry came apart when he came on board. he is a hack and will be selling insurance within 2 years

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And Marshall is DL coach at a 3-8 D2 school.

Reminds me of trump/hillary debate. Haha.


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where did i defend marshal?

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[Msucat5]

[quote="wbtfg"][quote="BroncoCat"]this is cramsey's 3rd staff firing in 6 years. his briiliant offensive mind cant keep a job.
our team chemistry came apart when he came on board. he is a hack and will be selling insurance within 2 years.


You're kiddint right?

[onceacat]

this is cramsey's 3rd staff firing in 6 years. his briiliant offensive mind cant keep a job.
our team chemistry came apart when he came on board. he is a hack and will be selling insurance within 2 years

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If i've got Choate as HC, with his background as a top-notch DL coach, and TG as my DC, I might take a winger with Cramsey. Cramsey's got a great mind-remember, the O we saw this year was almost exactly the same as last year, minus Prukop.

That said, I'd want to make sure my D was in really good hands before I brought Cramsey in, and I'd keep him on a really short leash. Marshall had a history of great defenses pre-2013. I'm not going to blame it all on Cramsey, but I'm not going to absolve him of responsibility either.

LTCF is right: Cramsey was magic against bad teams and during garbage time, but regular disappeared against middling to good defenses.

LTCFs other point: The entire football staff at FIU was canned after FIU went 3-8 after 2 consecutive bowl games. Cramsey's first year...2013, Cramsey joins an MSU program ranked #2 in the country, which proceeds to go 19-17 over the next two years despite a Buchanan winner, 2 different all american QBs, and a handful of other NFL prospects. Upon which the entire staff is canned. MSU passes on hiring its all-universe OC for its newly vacated HC position. Cramsey goes to Nevada in 2016: Takes over OC for a WolfPack team that has played in a bowl game in 10 out of 11 previous years. They go 5-7 (not a huge step back, but a step back nonetheless) and head coach is fired.

Maybe Cramsey was the difference maker at UNH? His final season in 2011, UNH lost in the 2nd round of the playoffs. In 2012, UNH made the 2nd round, then in 2013 & 2014, UNH made the semis.

In other words, 3 consecutive TEAMS performed worse once TC joined their staff. The team before that improved without TC on staff.

Like the poster said "The one common thread in all your failed relationships is you..."

[Hawks86]

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[BigBruceBaker]

Ash/Cramsey reunite at uc Davis?


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O I could definitely see it, and it's a real possibility.

I don't know... it always seemed like a bit of a personality conflict, plus I think Cramsey wants to be a head coach, so he'll likely be throwing his resume out there. Assuming he can't stay at Nevada.

It's more than that. The decline of MSU under Ash can be traced back to when Cramsey came on board.

The lesson learned that you cannot win by explosive offense alone and thereby sacrificing your defense won't soon be forgotten. If I was Ash, I would steer clear of Cramsey like the plague.

I don't know....I think Marshall let ash down more than cramsey. Hard to be too mad at a guy who orchestrated an offense that scored 45+ points/game.


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After time to reflect, I think that's why he never let Marshall go. The problem really wasn't Marshall. It was Cramsey's offense. Don't forget most of those points came in garbage time

There's some cause and effect there, sure, but at the end of the day, Cramsey had a top 5 offense in the country, and Marshall had a bottom 5 defense.
And Bozeman wasn't Cramsey's first job. He's got a history of very solid offenses.

It either scored too fast or was ineffective against good defenses. It put entirely too much pressure our own defense.

OK. You're starting a new team today, and you have to have either Cramsey as your OC, or Marshall your DC. Who you picking?

Call me crazy, but Marshall. I want as far away as possible from that offense. It does nothing for the team as a whole.

You have drank entirely to FEW ipa's. You are officially on the crazy train.


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