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New Coaching Compensation Plan

Post by Counter Assault » Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:35 pm

So for the next MSU head coaching contract, this is what I advised the department.

Base Salary - $125,000 +

Winning Season - $25,000 bonus. +

Top 30% FBS Defense on a mix of stats - $25,000 bonus. +

Making the playoffs - $25,000 bonus. +

If winning season, beat the Griz - $40,000 or

If winning season, make playoffs and beat the Griz - $60,000 or

If losing season, beat the Griz - $26,500



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Re: New Coaching Compensation Plan

Post by 91catAlum » Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:40 pm

It's not bad, but it's too hung up on the griz. And what about playoff wins, and bonus for a national championship?

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Re: New Coaching Compensation Plan

Post by SonomaCat » Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:42 pm

I'd assume that MSU has access to a database that lays out the comps from other programs around the country from which they can craft a comp package that is likely to attract, retain and motivate the best talent. It's hard to do any of this sort of thing without good data to start from.



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Re: New Coaching Compensation Plan

Post by Counter Assault » Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:43 pm

91catAlum wrote:It's not bad, but it's too hung up on the griz. And what about playoff wins, and bonus for a national championship?

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Nah, it has to be a key component whether you win or lose. It just comes up a lot because I would make it a kicker.

Maybe $10,000 for each playoff win? Need to think in terms of kickers.

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Re: New Coaching Compensation Plan

Post by Counter Assault » Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:44 pm

SonomaCat wrote:I'd assume that MSU has access to a database that lays out the comps from other programs around the country from which they can craft a comp package that is likely to attract, retain and motivate the best talent. It's hard to do any of this sort of thing without good data to start from.
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Re: New Coaching Compensation Plan

Post by wapiti » Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:48 pm

If we want to attract quality applicants the base better be higher than that.



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Re: New Coaching Compensation Plan

Post by SonomaCat » Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:49 pm

Counter Assault wrote:
SonomaCat wrote:I'd assume that MSU has access to a database that lays out the comps from other programs around the country from which they can craft a comp package that is likely to attract, retain and motivate the best talent. It's hard to do any of this sort of thing without good data to start from.
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I know that social media tends to bring out a lot of very strong opinions on topics from we the masses on questions we know nothing about, but I just don't see any upside to pulling something out of my ass on this topic. I'm sure whatever MSU comes up with will make a lot more sense that whatever comes out of any of our asses. :wink:



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Re: New Coaching Compensation Plan

Post by John K » Mon Nov 23, 2015 7:51 pm

wapiti wrote:If we want to attract quality applicants the base better be higher than that.
Yep!!



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Re: New Coaching Compensation Plan

Post by DriscollCat » Mon Nov 23, 2015 9:29 pm

John K wrote:
wapiti wrote:If we want to attract quality applicants the base better be higher than that.
Yep!!
Yes. Much, much higher.



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Re: New Coaching Compensation Plan

Post by GoCats18 » Tue Nov 24, 2015 1:46 am

This is a horrible payment option. How about this

1. Win a National Championship----$1,000,000
2. Don't and you get $175,000 plus a hot tub.


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Re: New Coaching Compensation Plan

Post by Buckets1234 » Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:02 am

GoCats18 wrote:This is a horrible payment option. How about this

1. Win a National Championship----$1,000,000
2. Don't and you get $175,000 plus a hot tub.
C'mon still with the hot tub gig? This board has to get some new material if we really want to attract the next best HC



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Re: New Coaching Compensation Plan

Post by 91catAlum » Tue Nov 24, 2015 8:14 am

GoCats18 wrote:This is a horrible payment option. How about this

1. Win a National Championship----$1,000,000
2. Don't and you get $175,000 plus a hot tub.
Not one single quality coach would sign a contract anything like that.


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Re: New Coaching Compensation Plan

Post by GoCats18 » Tue Nov 24, 2015 8:38 am

You people need to find a sense of humor!! Good lord, learn to laugh about stuff.


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Re: New Coaching Compensation Plan

Post by 91catAlum » Tue Nov 24, 2015 8:58 am

GoCats18 wrote:You people need to find a sense of humor!! Good lord, learn to laugh about stuff.
Sorry, realized you were probably kidding after I replied.


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Re: New Coaching Compensation Plan

Post by Cat Grad » Tue Nov 24, 2015 9:04 am

USA Today has the compensation package of every college coach to include the majority of assistant coaches of all the public institutions in America. It is kind of foolish to think MSU is going to get a name coach on a high school coaches salary, it really is. As far as the assistant coaches, one would think they all understand the last legislative session the state TRS will limit their retirement to a ten percent increase in computing their annuity upon retirement. This is another aspect the Athletic Department must inform all the young coaches of entering into contract negotiations each year. I would hope MSU is willing to pay a competitive salary and we have great success.



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Re: New Coaching Compensation Plan

Post by fsburr1 » Tue Nov 24, 2015 9:07 am

Wasn't Bohl paid over 300k at NDSU?



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Re: New Coaching Compensation Plan

Post by Sotallytober » Tue Nov 24, 2015 9:49 am

fsburr1 wrote:Wasn't Bohl paid over 300k at NDSU?
I'd bet Ash's payday would be around that if we won the FCS title. His bonus for the National Championship alone was $50k, along with increasing bonuses for each playoff win.



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Re: New Coaching Compensation Plan

Post by 77matcat » Fri Nov 27, 2015 7:18 pm

Does BOR establish contract and pay??


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Re: New Coaching Compensation Plan

Post by wbtfg » Fri Nov 27, 2015 7:25 pm

77matcat wrote:Does BOR establish contract and pay??


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Re: New Coaching Compensation Plan

Post by 77matcat » Fri Nov 27, 2015 8:30 pm

But they most probably won't wonder far from the established salaries. I don't see them allowing one competitive school to have an advantage over another


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