Clock Question

[CelticCat]

I'm curious about this, I forgot I posted in here. If the clock was stopped, and it was a live ball foul, I thought the clock should be returned to the state it was in before the play began. But these are the subtle rule differences between NFL, college, and high school so perhaps I don't know the college rule book.

I e-mailed Karl Richins, who is the coordinator of football officials for the Big Sky Conference. I'll let everyone know what I find it, assuming he gets back to me.

[CatBlitz]

I'm curious about this, I forgot I posted in here. If the clock was stopped, and it was a live ball foul, I thought the clock should be returned to the state it was in before the play began. But these are the subtle rule differences between NFL, college, and high school so perhaps I don't know the college rule book.

I e-mailed Karl Richins, who is the coordinator of football officials for the Big Sky Conference. I'll let everyone know what I find it, assuming he gets back to me.

I would love to hear this explanation. Thanks for emailing.

[Buckets1234]

I'm curious about this, I forgot I posted in here. If the clock was stopped, and it was a live ball foul, I thought the clock should be returned to the state it was in before the play began. But these are the subtle rule differences between NFL, college, and high school so perhaps I don't know the college rule book.

I e-mailed Karl Richins, who is the coordinator of football officials for the Big Sky Conference. I'll let everyone know what I find it, assuming he gets back to me.

I would love to hear this explanation. Thanks for emailing.

I posted this on the previous page of this thread, in case you didn't see it...
It's a bad rule that will almost certainly be changed within the next year or two. Because UND ran a play and committed the holding DURING that play, the play clock resets to 25 seconds and the game clock runs those 25 seconds on the 'ready for play' because it happened DURING a play that ended with the clock RUNNING. That penalty has nothing to do with whatever happened on the previous play (timeout, dead ball, etc.) Had they not gained the yardage necessary for the first down, MSU then should have declined the penalty and forced a fourth down decision.

[ilovethecats]

I'm curious about this, I forgot I posted in here. If the clock was stopped, and it was a live ball foul, I thought the clock should be returned to the state it was in before the play began. But these are the subtle rule differences between NFL, college, and high school so perhaps I don't know the college rule book.

I e-mailed Karl Richins, who is the coordinator of football officials for the Big Sky Conference. I'll let everyone know what I find it, assuming he gets back to me.

I would love to hear this explanation. Thanks for emailing.

I posted this on the previous page of this thread, in case you didn't see it...
It's a bad rule that will almost certainly be changed within the next year or two. Because UND ran a play and committed the holding DURING that play, the play clock resets to 25 seconds and the game clock runs those 25 seconds on the 'ready for play' because it happened DURING a play that ended with the clock RUNNING. That penalty has nothing to do with whatever happened on the previous play (timeout, dead ball, etc.) Had they not gained the yardage necessary for the first down, MSU then should have declined the penalty and forced a fourth down decision.

thanks for that explanation. I don't like it but it makes a little more sense.

[PapaG]

I'm curious about this, I forgot I posted in here. If the clock was stopped, and it was a live ball foul, I thought the clock should be returned to the state it was in before the play began. But these are the subtle rule differences between NFL, college, and high school so perhaps I don't know the college rule book.

I e-mailed Karl Richins, who is the coordinator of football officials for the Big Sky Conference. I'll let everyone know what I find it, assuming he gets back to me.

I would love to hear this explanation. Thanks for emailing.

I posted this on the previous page of this thread, in case you didn't see it...
It's a bad rule that will almost certainly be changed within the next year or two. Because UND ran a play and committed the holding DURING that play, the play clock resets to 25 seconds and the game clock runs those 25 seconds on the 'ready for play' because it happened DURING a play that ended with the clock RUNNING. That penalty has nothing to do with whatever happened on the previous play (timeout, dead ball, etc.) Had they not gained the yardage necessary for the first down, MSU then should have declined the penalty and forced a fourth down decision.

So what stops a team with the lead and with the opponents having one or zero timeouts from holding literally every play on a run as soon as they get the ball in the 4th?

[Buckets1234]

I'm curious about this, I forgot I posted in here. If the clock was stopped, and it was a live ball foul, I thought the clock should be returned to the state it was in before the play began. But these are the subtle rule differences between NFL, college, and high school so perhaps I don't know the college rule book.

I e-mailed Karl Richins, who is the coordinator of football officials for the Big Sky Conference. I'll let everyone know what I find it, assuming he gets back to me.

I would love to hear this explanation. Thanks for emailing.

I posted this on the previous page of this thread, in case you didn't see it...
It's a bad rule that will almost certainly be changed within the next year or two. Because UND ran a play and committed the holding DURING that play, the play clock resets to 25 seconds and the game clock runs those 25 seconds on the 'ready for play' because it happened DURING a play that ended with the clock RUNNING. That penalty has nothing to do with whatever happened on the previous play (timeout, dead ball, etc.) Had they not gained the yardage necessary for the first down, MSU then should have declined the penalty and forced a fourth down decision.

So what stops a team with the lead and with the opponents having one or zero timeouts from holding literally every play on a run as soon as they get the ball in the 4th?

If you aren't getting first downs on the holding plays then the defense would just decline the penalties. Although your argument makes sense in certain contexts, you couldn't just always do it because eventually you would get yourself into fourth downs..holding all the time doesn't necessarily equal success. Like I said, it's just a really bad rule.

[PapaG]

I'm curious about this, I forgot I posted in here. If the clock was stopped, and it was a live ball foul, I thought the clock should be returned to the state it was in before the play began. But these are the subtle rule differences between NFL, college, and high school so perhaps I don't know the college rule book.

I e-mailed Karl Richins, who is the coordinator of football officials for the Big Sky Conference. I'll let everyone know what I find it, assuming he gets back to me.

I would love to hear this explanation. Thanks for emailing.

I posted this on the previous page of this thread, in case you didn't see it...
It's a bad rule that will almost certainly be changed within the next year or two. Because UND ran a play and committed the holding DURING that play, the play clock resets to 25 seconds and the game clock runs those 25 seconds on the 'ready for play' because it happened DURING a play that ended with the clock RUNNING. That penalty has nothing to do with whatever happened on the previous play (timeout, dead ball, etc.) Had they not gained the yardage necessary for the first down, MSU then should have declined the penalty and forced a fourth down decision.

So what stops a team with the lead and with the opponents having one or zero timeouts from holding literally every play on a run as soon as they get the ball in the 4th?

If you aren't getting first downs on the holding plays then the defense would just decline the penalties. Although your argument makes sense in certain contexts, you couldn't just always do it because eventually you would get yourself into fourth downs..holding all the time doesn't necessarily equal success. Like I said, it's just a really bad rule.

The clock would restart on every play, though. Have the o-line literally tackle the defenders at the snap and you'd get yards running the ball. Declining the penalty would move the offense down the field anyhow with the clock still running.

[Buckets1234]

I'm curious about this, I forgot I posted in here. If the clock was stopped, and it was a live ball foul, I thought the clock should be returned to the state it was in before the play began. But these are the subtle rule differences between NFL, college, and high school so perhaps I don't know the college rule book.

I e-mailed Karl Richins, who is the coordinator of football officials for the Big Sky Conference. I'll let everyone know what I find it, assuming he gets back to me.

I would love to hear this explanation. Thanks for emailing.

I posted this on the previous page of this thread, in case you didn't see it...
It's a bad rule that will almost certainly be changed within the next year or two. Because UND ran a play and committed the holding DURING that play, the play clock resets to 25 seconds and the game clock runs those 25 seconds on the 'ready for play' because it happened DURING a play that ended with the clock RUNNING. That penalty has nothing to do with whatever happened on the previous play (timeout, dead ball, etc.) Had they not gained the yardage necessary for the first down, MSU then should have declined the penalty and forced a fourth down decision.

So what stops a team with the lead and with the opponents having one or zero timeouts from holding literally every play on a run as soon as they get the ball in the 4th?

If you aren't getting first downs on the holding plays then the defense would just decline the penalties. Although your argument makes sense in certain contexts, you couldn't just always do it because eventually you would get yourself into fourth downs..holding all the time doesn't necessarily equal success. Like I said, it's just a really bad rule.

The clock would restart on every play, though. Have the o-line literally tackle the defenders at the snap and you'd get yards running the ball. Declining the penalty would move the offense down the field anyhow with the clock still running.

Are you hoping to run out 10 minutes by holding? This would never make sense beyond a play or two in the last couple minutes. Just for the sake of your argument, all the defense would have to do is accept the first two holding penalties and then decline the next ones and the offense would be in 3rd and 4th and a mile