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Tribune Ash article
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Getting in the playoffs "took the bad taste out of our mouths" after getting thumped by the griz? Are you kidding me? What a joke! It's painfully obvious that Ash doesn't get it when it comes to cat griz. This lack of leadership is what we're stuck with as long as he's here. When you don't have people from Montana leading the show, this is the mentality you get.
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msuhunter wrote:Getting in the playoffs "took the bad taste out of our mouths" after getting thumped by the griz? Are you kidding me? What a joke! It's painfully obvious that Ash doesn't get it when it comes to cat griz. This lack of leadership is what we're stuck with as long as he's here. When you don't have people from Montana leading the show, this is the mentality you get.
I have NOT been one of the "fire ash" people........ but yeah, have to agree with you, pretty ridiculous statement. Get destroyed by your biggest Rival and then lose a home playoff game to end the season.... There should not be any coach in country that is remotely satisfied with that situation....
Like I said, I am not a "Fire Ash" guy... but that is pretty frustrating.
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Is Bolton a senior?mslacatfan wrote:msuhunter wrote:Getting in the playoffs "took the bad taste out of our mouths" after getting thumped by the griz? Are you kidding me? What a joke! It's painfully obvious that Ash doesn't get it when it comes to cat griz. This lack of leadership is what we're stuck with as long as he's here. When you don't have people from Montana leading the show, this is the mentality you get.
I have NOT been one of the "fire ash" people........ but yeah, have to agree with you, pretty ridiculous statement. Get destroyed by your biggest Rival and then lose a home playoff game to end the season.... There should not be any coach in country that is remotely satisfied with that situation....
Like I said, I am not a "Fire Ash" guy... but that is pretty frustrating.
(great news about Bleskin coming back though, the Cats definitely need him)
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It's not a situation where we're going to lead the league in defense anymore, as long as we play this type of offense.
Well with this type of thinking I have no confidence the defense will be any better. Ash already has a built in excuse for next year. Marshall has the best job in football highest paid assistant on the staff and no worries about accountability what a joke
Well with this type of thinking I have no confidence the defense will be any better. Ash already has a built in excuse for next year. Marshall has the best job in football highest paid assistant on the staff and no worries about accountability what a joke
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He also said bluntly that the defense needs to get better. I honestly believe he'll make the right moves here, and with a little luck from the injury Gods for once, we will better on D, as we have been several times under Ash. All that being said, do some of you really not understand the concept of WHY our defensive numbers were expected to going to look worse, did look worse, and will continue to look worse once we made the decision to commit 100% to run the offense we're running? I am not happy with the defense obviously but just trying to be realistic with my expectations.catgrad05 wrote:It's not a situation where we're going to lead the league in defense anymore, as long as we play this type of offense.
Well with this type of thinking I have no confidence the defense will be any better. Ash already has a built in excuse for next year. Marshall has the best job in football highest paid assistant on the staff and no worries about accountability what a joke
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You really think the D is going to suddenly get better? If it wasn't obvious after the two SHSU debacles it sure should be when the Griz pummel us. We need a different DC at the very least!
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Not sticking up for the defense here because it did suck, but seems to me that the Griz pummeling was an offensive thing due to handing them the ball back 7-8 times.Monarch cat wrote:You really think the D is going to suddenly get better? If it wasn't obvious after the two SHSU debacles it sure should be when the Griz pummel us. We need a different DC at the very least!
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http://youtu.be/AL2Uj9uG7EI
THAT is the message of a CHAMPION.
The message from Ash is its ok to be average.
THAT is the message of a CHAMPION.
The message from Ash is its ok to be average.
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LongTimeCatFan wrote:http://youtu.be/AL2Uj9uG7EI
THAT is the message of a CHAMPION.
The message from Ash is its ok to be average.
Great speech. Good talk. Someone should send it to Ash, because I'm pretty sure his speeches to the players usually focus on teaching them how to be average.
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Ataccatatac wrote:He also said bluntly that the defense needs to get better. I honestly believe he'll make the right moves here, and with a little luck from the injury Gods for once, we will better on D, as we have been several times under Ash. All that being said, do some of you really not understand the concept of WHY our defensive numbers were expected to going to look worse, did look worse, and will continue to look worse once we made the decision to commit 100% to run the offense we're running? I am not happy with the defense obviously but just trying to be realistic with my expectations.catgrad05 wrote:It's not a situation where we're going to lead the league in defense anymore, as long as we play this type of offense.
Well with this type of thinking I have no confidence the defense will be any better. Ash already has a built in excuse for next year. Marshall has the best job in football highest paid assistant on the staff and no worries about accountability what a joke
Please stop with the offense mskes our defense suffer. The only time that might have some impact is if you are playing prevent all the time and are ok with leaving the D on the field. In this case you shoot yourself in the foot.
Otherwise grow a pair get aggressive and get a 3 and out. Hey.......then would we be making the offense look bad because we put them back on the field????
Type of Offense makes defense look bad..... Craziest statement I've ever heard.
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To a point, I agree with both of you. If you run more plays and get more possessions on offense, the same is likely true of your defense simply due to the uptick in possessions. But as 77 says, GET OFF THE FIELD. And there's no fatigue.77matcat wrote:Ataccatatac wrote:He also said bluntly that the defense needs to get better. I honestly believe he'll make the right moves here, and with a little luck from the injury Gods for once, we will better on D, as we have been several times under Ash. All that being said, do some of you really not understand the concept of WHY our defensive numbers were expected to going to look worse, did look worse, and will continue to look worse once we made the decision to commit 100% to run the offense we're running? I am not happy with the defense obviously but just trying to be realistic with my expectations.catgrad05 wrote:It's not a situation where we're going to lead the league in defense anymore, as long as we play this type of offense.
Well with this type of thinking I have no confidence the defense will be any better. Ash already has a built in excuse for next year. Marshall has the best job in football highest paid assistant on the staff and no worries about accountability what a joke
Please stop with the offense mskes our defense suffer. The only time that might have some impact is if you are playing prevent all the time and are ok with leaving the D on the field. In this case you shoot yourself in the foot.
Otherwise grow a pair get aggressive and get a 3 and out. Hey.......then would we be making the offense look bad because we put them back on the field????
Type of Offense makes defense look bad..... Craziest statement I've ever heard.
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It's not my opinion.... it's fact. LTCF explains it clearly above. That being said, I am in no way using this an excuse to justify poor defensive performance. I saw some things in our defense in 2014 that were uncharacteristic of Ash led teams IMO, and not all of that can be attributed to the true first year of committing to and running this offense 100%. Many posters have explained how the primary flaw was lacking that one all american pass rusher that we've had the luxury of having for several years. That's certainly part of it but there are other issues (that I saw from my arm chair view) that need to get cleaned up. I for one DO have confidence in this staff to get it done. Yes, I do think out defense will be better in 2015. I won a bottle of whiskey this year off of posters that disagreed with me that our offense was going to be better in 2014 than 2013.... I'd be more than happy to place the same wager on our defense being better in 2015 than 2014, total points or total D - your choice. All that being said, we just aren't going to run this offense and score 50 points a game and expect to limit all our Big Sky opponents and any upper echelon FCS teams to 10 points. Not going to happen.77matcat wrote:Ataccatatac wrote:He also said bluntly that the defense needs to get better. I honestly believe he'll make the right moves here, and with a little luck from the injury Gods for once, we will better on D, as we have been several times under Ash. All that being said, do some of you really not understand the concept of WHY our defensive numbers were expected to going to look worse, did look worse, and will continue to look worse once we made the decision to commit 100% to run the offense we're running? I am not happy with the defense obviously but just trying to be realistic with my expectations.catgrad05 wrote:It's not a situation where we're going to lead the league in defense anymore, as long as we play this type of offense.
Well with this type of thinking I have no confidence the defense will be any better. Ash already has a built in excuse for next year. Marshall has the best job in football highest paid assistant on the staff and no worries about accountability what a joke
Please stop with the offense mskes our defense suffer. The only time that might have some impact is if you are playing prevent all the time and are ok with leaving the D on the field. In this case you shoot yourself in the foot.
Otherwise grow a pair get aggressive and get a 3 and out. Hey.......then would we be making the offense look bad because we put them back on the field????
Type of Offense makes defense look bad..... Craziest statement I've ever heard.
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Re: Tribune Ash article
All he said was getting selected for the playoffs took the bad taste out of their mouths after Cat/Griz. What would you prefer, that the guys get over the game and get excited for the playoffs, like Ash said, or that they continue to be down and out and come out flat against SDSU?
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Blaming the offense for the Defense playing badly souds really hollow to me. I could see this in the second half, but we let the score on the first couple of possessions which turned into the track meets. I don't see the D being tired when they walked on the field.
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I don't take the comments about the offensive style being a detriment to our defense as anything other than the point that LTCF made, which is our offense isn't trying to shorten the game by holding the ball so the opposing offense is going to run more plays. More possessions/plays is going to equate to more yards gained and likely more scoring. Which makes it a lot harder to lead the league in defense.
There has been some commentary on the improvement of UND's defense from last to this year but no one has commented on how much their offensive style helped the defense. They are the exact opposite of us. Their offense is part trying to score part trying to burn clock. They threw the ball 3 times the week before we played them. 3 times! Even if they go 3 and out they are still making sure they take at least 3 minutes off the clock. It makes a difference in the stat column at the end of the day for your defense.
There has been some commentary on the improvement of UND's defense from last to this year but no one has commented on how much their offensive style helped the defense. They are the exact opposite of us. Their offense is part trying to score part trying to burn clock. They threw the ball 3 times the week before we played them. 3 times! Even if they go 3 and out they are still making sure they take at least 3 minutes off the clock. It makes a difference in the stat column at the end of the day for your defense.
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Defense will get better when obviously needed changes are made. Coaching change at DC, defensive scheme changed, player personnel changed and improved all around the defense. Whatever happened to "DEFENSIVE" pride? Changes, not excuses or proclimations by Ash will do it.
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With this offensive system, I don't know that anyone expects us to lead the league in defense, but I don't think it's unreasonable to expect that we should be better than 12th out of 13 teams.ElbowCat wrote:I don't take the comments about the offensive style being a detriment to our defense as anything other than the point that LTCF made, which is our offense isn't trying to shorten the game by holding the ball so the opposing offense is going to run more plays. More possessions/plays is going to equate to more yards gained and likely more scoring. Which makes it a lot harder to lead the league in defense.
There has been some commentary on the improvement of UND's defense from last to this year but no one has commented on how much their offensive style helped the defense. They are the exact opposite of us. Their offense is part trying to score part trying to burn clock. They threw the ball 3 times the week before we played them. 3 times! Even if they go 3 and out they are still making sure they take at least 3 minutes off the clock. It makes a difference in the stat column at the end of the day for your defense.