X's and O's of our defense.
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X's and O's of our defense.
Randomly ran across this today.
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Does auto correct know something we don't? Thanks for the info.
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Re: X's and O's of our defense.
I only read the first little bit. I had no idea what they were saying with the peels. I guess if I don't have armrests I'd be a lousy coach. Which is why even with all of the explanations I still don't get why we played Na'a so much.
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Re: X's and O's of our defense.
Because Na'a knows what a peel is....allcat wrote:I only read the first little bit. I had no idea what they were saying with the peels. I guess if I don't have armrests I'd be a lousy coach. Which is why even with all of the explanations I still don't get why we played Na'a so much.
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I believe a "Peel" is a rusher who is then also responsible for the RB if he "splits" out of the back field. He would break his rush and "Peel off" and cover the RB out of the back field. I could be wrong.
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There is an old saying amongst football coaches. "It's not about the x's and o's. It's all about the Johnnies and Joes". Schemes are worthless without the good players. This year the lack of pass rush pressure really hurt. We need a good recruiting year for sure.
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Re: X's and O's of our defense.
But the right scheme with proper execution can put the players in the best position to make plays.bobcatbob wrote:There is an old saying amongst football coaches. "It's not about the x's and o's. It's all about the Johnnies and Joes". Schemes are worthless without the good players. This year the lack of pass rush pressure really hurt. We need a good recruiting year for sure.
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Re: X's and O's of our defense.
Right, just look at North Dakota Who's. A new coach comes in, using the players already there, teaches them up and has a stellar defense.Bobcat Sig wrote:But the right scheme with proper execution can put the players in the best position to make plays.bobcatbob wrote:There is an old saying amongst football coaches. "It's not about the x's and o's. It's all about the Johnnies and Joes". Schemes are worthless without the good players. This year the lack of pass rush pressure really hurt. We need a good recruiting year for sure.
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allcat wrote:Right, just look at North Dakota Who's. A new coach comes in, using the players already there, teaches them up and has a stellar defense.Bobcat Sig wrote:But the right scheme with proper execution can put the players in the best position to make plays.bobcatbob wrote:There is an old saying amongst football coaches. "It's not about the x's and o's. It's all about the Johnnies and Joes". Schemes are worthless without the good players. This year the lack of pass rush pressure really hurt. We need a good recruiting year for sure.
Execution is done with good players. When we had Daly and Schreibies and Minter we used similar schemes and they worked. This year we couldn't get the pressure on the QB. It appears we used the wrong schemes with the level of talent we had this year.
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Re: X's and O's of our defense.
Correct.SACCAT wrote:I believe a "Peel" is a rusher who is then also responsible for the RB if he "splits" out of the back field. He would break his rush and "Peel off" and cover the RB out of the back field. I could be wrong.
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And it wasn't just those three players. The 2012 defense also featured Jody Owens and a much better version of Na'a at linebacker, and Jones and Bethley in the secondary. That's two Buck winners, an NFL player, a BSC Defensive MVP, and three other players who were 1st team all-BSC. That's a pretty big dropoff in talent over the past two years. Still though, I don't believe our talent was bad enough this season, to explain being the 2nd worst defense in the BSC.bobcatbob wrote:allcat wrote:Right, just look at North Dakota Who's. A new coach comes in, using the players already there, teaches them up and has a stellar defense.Bobcat Sig wrote:But the right scheme with proper execution can put the players in the best position to make plays.bobcatbob wrote:There is an old saying amongst football coaches. "It's not about the x's and o's. It's all about the Johnnies and Joes". Schemes are worthless without the good players. This year the lack of pass rush pressure really hurt. We need a good recruiting year for sure.
Execution is done with good players. When we had Daly and Schreibies and Minter we used similar schemes and they worked. This year we couldn't get the pressure on the QB. It appears we used the wrong schemes with the level of talent we had this year.
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Re: X's and O's of our defense.
Gee, maybe not bragging how cool our D is by posting exactly how it works both in writing and in video would help. "Hi everyone in the BSC and beyond! Here's exactly how our D works. Enjoy learning how to burn it!"John K wrote:And it wasn't just those three players. The 2012 defense also featured Jody Owens and a much better version of Na'a at linebacker, and Jones and Bethley in the secondary. That's two Buck winners, an NFL player, a BSC Defensive MVP, and three other players who were 1st team all-BSC. That's a pretty big dropoff in talent over the past two years. Still though, I don't believe our talent was bad enough this season, to explain being the 2nd worst defense in the BSC.bobcatbob wrote:allcat wrote:Right, just look at North Dakota Who's. A new coach comes in, using the players already there, teaches them up and has a stellar defense.Bobcat Sig wrote:But the right scheme with proper execution can put the players in the best position to make plays.bobcatbob wrote:There is an old saying amongst football coaches. "It's not about the x's and o's. It's all about the Johnnies and Joes". Schemes are worthless without the good players. This year the lack of pass rush pressure really hurt. We need a good recruiting year for sure.
Execution is done with good players. When we had Daly and Schreibies and Minter we used similar schemes and they worked. This year we couldn't get the pressure on the QB. It appears we used the wrong schemes with the level of talent we had this year.
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Re: X's and O's of our defense.
allcat wrote:Right, just look at North Dakota Who's. A new coach comes in, using the players already there, teaches them up and has a stellar defense.Bobcat Sig wrote:But the right scheme with proper execution can put the players in the best position to make plays.bobcatbob wrote:There is an old saying amongst football coaches. "It's not about the x's and o's. It's all about the Johnnies and Joes". Schemes are worthless without the good players. This year the lack of pass rush pressure really hurt. We need a good recruiting year for sure.
The new NDSU coach was the DC. I am sure that helped.
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wrong schoolkwcat wrote:allcat wrote:Right, just look at North Dakota Who's. A new coach comes in, using the players already there, teaches them up and has a stellar defense.Bobcat Sig wrote:But the right scheme with proper execution can put the players in the best position to make plays.bobcatbob wrote:There is an old saying amongst football coaches. "It's not about the x's and o's. It's all about the Johnnies and Joes". Schemes are worthless without the good players. This year the lack of pass rush pressure really hurt. We need a good recruiting year for sure.
The new NDSU coach was the DC. I am sure that helped.
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Re: X's and O's of our defense.
lol, that is what I was thinking. And, also after such a poor showing defensively, why would I want to impress people with my insight and strategy. I don't even know these guys, and I'm pretty happy with the year, but it does make me wonder what is going on in their thinking.[cat_bracket] wrote:Gee, maybe not bragging how cool our D is by posting exactly how it works both in writing and in video would help. "Hi everyone in the BSC and beyond! Here's exactly how our D works. Enjoy learning how to burn it!"John K wrote:And it wasn't just those three players. The 2012 defense also featured Jody Owens and a much better version of Na'a at linebacker, and Jones and Bethley in the secondary. That's two Buck winners, an NFL player, a BSC Defensive MVP, and three other players who were 1st team all-BSC. That's a pretty big dropoff in talent over the past two years. Still though, I don't believe our talent was bad enough this season, to explain being the 2nd worst defense in the BSC.bobcatbob wrote:allcat wrote:Right, just look at North Dakota Who's. A new coach comes in, using the players already there, teaches them up and has a stellar defense.Bobcat Sig wrote:But the right scheme with proper execution can put the players in the best position to make plays.bobcatbob wrote:There is an old saying amongst football coaches. "It's not about the x's and o's. It's all about the Johnnies and Joes". Schemes are worthless without the good players. This year the lack of pass rush pressure really hurt. We need a good recruiting year for sure.
Execution is done with good players. When we had Daly and Schreibies and Minter we used similar schemes and they worked. This year we couldn't get the pressure on the QB. It appears we used the wrong schemes with the level of talent we had this year.
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Re: X's and O's of our defense.
Thanks my bad. Read too quickallcat wrote:wrong schoolkwcat wrote:allcat wrote:Right, just look at North Dakota Who's. A new coach comes in, using the players already there, teaches them up and has a stellar defense.Bobcat Sig wrote:But the right scheme with proper execution can put the players in the best position to make plays.bobcatbob wrote:There is an old saying amongst football coaches. "It's not about the x's and o's. It's all about the Johnnies and Joes". Schemes are worthless without the good players. This year the lack of pass rush pressure really hurt. We need a good recruiting year for sure.
The new NDSU coach was the DC. I am sure that helped.
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Our scheme didn't work against SHSUbobcatbob wrote:allcat wrote:Right, just look at North Dakota Who's. A new coach comes in, using the players already there, teaches them up and has a stellar defense.Bobcat Sig wrote:But the right scheme with proper execution can put the players in the best position to make plays.bobcatbob wrote:There is an old saying amongst football coaches. "It's not about the x's and o's. It's all about the Johnnies and Joes". Schemes are worthless without the good players. This year the lack of pass rush pressure really hurt. We need a good recruiting year for sure.
Execution is done with good players. When we had Daly and Schreibies and Minter we used similar schemes and they worked. This year we couldn't get the pressure on the QB. It appears we used the wrong schemes with the level of talent we had this year.
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Against them at home it worked pretty well, not so much the first time in Texas though. In the second game we held them to 4 yards a carry (3.4/carry for Flanders and 3.8/carry for Sincere, that's pretty good) and 34 pts, despite the offense turning it over twice, once inside our own 20, and having 7 of our 11 drives having 4 or less plays, ouch. Our defense was good enough to win that game.LongTimeCatFan wrote:Our scheme didn't work against SHSUbobcatbob wrote:allcat wrote:Right, just look at North Dakota Who's. A new coach comes in, using the players already there, teaches them up and has a stellar defense.Bobcat Sig wrote:But the right scheme with proper execution can put the players in the best position to make plays.bobcatbob wrote:There is an old saying amongst football coaches. "It's not about the x's and o's. It's all about the Johnnies and Joes". Schemes are worthless without the good players. This year the lack of pass rush pressure really hurt. We need a good recruiting year for sure.
Execution is done with good players. When we had Daly and Schreibies and Minter we used similar schemes and they worked. This year we couldn't get the pressure on the QB. It appears we used the wrong schemes with the level of talent we had this year.