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Peter Fields
First Post on BCN and probably my last, but I cannot let this one go. Garrett Marino gets kicked off the team and they revoke his scholly on Tuesday. He gets arrested last night night! Why is he still in Bozeman? Shouldn't Peter Fields have had someone personally make sure the kid was sent to the airport and sent off? I am not justifying anything he did, but it sounds like they just totally gave up on this kid and said figure it out kid! While a lot of kids have the means to get home I have no idea if he did or not, but shouldn't the athletic department step up and make sure this kid gets home? Now he has a fun court date to deal with! Hope you get your life figured out Marino. You obviously have some anger issues to work through and I hope you realize that.
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I think it's illegal to kidnap somebody -- neither the coaches nor Peter Fields (who is strangely being called out here -- if anything, wouldn't this be on the coaches for recruiting him?) have no power to tell people who aren't on the team where they can or can't go. He didn't get kicked out of school, did he? It would be quite bizarre (and a total contradiction to the ethos of "student-athletes") if the athletic department kidnapped a student and shipped them out of Bozeman during the middle of a school week.slccat wrote:First Post on BCN and probably my last, but I cannot let this one go. Garrett Marino gets kicked off the team and they revoke his scholly on Tuesday. He gets arrested last night night! Why is he still in Bozeman? Shouldn't Peter Fields have had someone personally make sure the kid was sent to the airport and sent off?
The reality is that he was given a chance with the Bobcats, and that didn't work out. He's not on the team anymore. Whatever happens is on him and only him.
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You can't make people leave like that.
Don't let this distract you from the fact that the griz blew a 22-0 lead.
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Re: Peter Fields
Wow. Great logic. Sounds like an old movie where the sheriff drops a bum off at the county line and tells him not to come back to these parts. Not sure Fields has that authority. [WINKING FACE]
Some people are a lot like slinkies....... Not really good for much, but it puts a smile on your face to watch them fall down a set of stairs.
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Re: Peter Fields
You are correct on everything! I guess i am just bitter at the whole process. Good post.
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We expect football players to be ruthless and aggressive and violent and nasty ... but we expect them to be able to turn that off at the right times. Some people apparently can't do that.
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Re: Peter Fields
While slccat's rant is misguided, you are wrong. What happens after a guy leaves the team should be a reflection of the leadership of the team, and that the team took care of someone who was once part of the team.Bay Area Cat wrote:I think it's illegal to kidnap somebody -- neither the coaches nor Peter Fields (who is strangely being called out here -- if anything, wouldn't this be on the coaches for recruiting him?) have no power to tell people who aren't on the team where they can or can't go. He didn't get kicked out of school, did he? It would be quite bizarre (and a total contradiction to the ethos of "student-athletes") if the athletic department kidnapped a student and shipped them out of Bozeman during the middle of a school week.slccat wrote:First Post on BCN and probably my last, but I cannot let this one go. Garrett Marino gets kicked off the team and they revoke his scholly on Tuesday. He gets arrested last night night! Why is he still in Bozeman? Shouldn't Peter Fields have had someone personally make sure the kid was sent to the airport and sent off?
The reality is that he was given a chance with the Bobcats, and that didn't work out. He's not on the team anymore. Whatever happens is on him and only him.
If everything someone did was only "on them," Mike Kramer would still be the head coach.
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Re: Peter Fields
I'm pretty sure that kidnapping is in fact illegal.FTG06' wrote:While slccat's rant is misguided, you are wrong. What happens after a guy leaves the team should be a reflection of the leadership of the team, and that the team took care of someone who was once part of the team.Bay Area Cat wrote:I think it's illegal to kidnap somebody -- neither the coaches nor Peter Fields (who is strangely being called out here -- if anything, wouldn't this be on the coaches for recruiting him?) have no power to tell people who aren't on the team where they can or can't go. He didn't get kicked out of school, did he? It would be quite bizarre (and a total contradiction to the ethos of "student-athletes") if the athletic department kidnapped a student and shipped them out of Bozeman during the middle of a school week.slccat wrote:First Post on BCN and probably my last, but I cannot let this one go. Garrett Marino gets kicked off the team and they revoke his scholly on Tuesday. He gets arrested last night night! Why is he still in Bozeman? Shouldn't Peter Fields have had someone personally make sure the kid was sent to the airport and sent off?
The reality is that he was given a chance with the Bobcats, and that didn't work out. He's not on the team anymore. Whatever happens is on him and only him.
If everything someone did was only "on them," Mike Kramer would still be the head coach.
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Setting aside the fact that I think you are forgetting a lot about the Kramer years (a lot of what happened was by coaches and players on the team at the time, not by guys that had been kicked off already as is the situation we are talking about), I will happily concede that a person could argue that the coaches are at fault for bringing that guy into Bozeman in the first place (which is why I said that in my post). That said, I'm not aware of this guy having any criminal record in the past, so it would be a stretch to say that the coaches would have known that him getting arrested was a likely result of recruiting him. He came in as a known academic risk -- not necessarily as a behavior risk.FTG06' wrote:While slccat's rant is misguided, you are wrong. What happens after a guy leaves the team should be a reflection of the leadership of the team, and that the team took care of someone who was once part of the team.Bay Area Cat wrote:I think it's illegal to kidnap somebody -- neither the coaches nor Peter Fields (who is strangely being called out here -- if anything, wouldn't this be on the coaches for recruiting him?) have no power to tell people who aren't on the team where they can or can't go. He didn't get kicked out of school, did he? It would be quite bizarre (and a total contradiction to the ethos of "student-athletes") if the athletic department kidnapped a student and shipped them out of Bozeman during the middle of a school week.slccat wrote:First Post on BCN and probably my last, but I cannot let this one go. Garrett Marino gets kicked off the team and they revoke his scholly on Tuesday. He gets arrested last night night! Why is he still in Bozeman? Shouldn't Peter Fields have had someone personally make sure the kid was sent to the airport and sent off?
The reality is that he was given a chance with the Bobcats, and that didn't work out. He's not on the team anymore. Whatever happens is on him and only him.
If everything someone did was only "on them," Mike Kramer would still be the head coach.
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What did he get arrested for? I assume it was some sort of bar fight? Or was it something potentially even worse like torture/murder or being a part of a large drug ring made up of current and former players or selling meth on a recruiting trip?
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Re: Peter Fields
Ya don't say?DCC2MSU wrote:I'm pretty sure that kidnapping is in fact illegal.FTG06' wrote:While slccat's rant is misguided, you are wrong. What happens after a guy leaves the team should be a reflection of the leadership of the team, and that the team took care of someone who was once part of the team.Bay Area Cat wrote:I think it's illegal to kidnap somebody -- neither the coaches nor Peter Fields (who is strangely being called out here -- if anything, wouldn't this be on the coaches for recruiting him?) have no power to tell people who aren't on the team where they can or can't go. He didn't get kicked out of school, did he? It would be quite bizarre (and a total contradiction to the ethos of "student-athletes") if the athletic department kidnapped a student and shipped them out of Bozeman during the middle of a school week.slccat wrote:First Post on BCN and probably my last, but I cannot let this one go. Garrett Marino gets kicked off the team and they revoke his scholly on Tuesday. He gets arrested last night night! Why is he still in Bozeman? Shouldn't Peter Fields have had someone personally make sure the kid was sent to the airport and sent off?
The reality is that he was given a chance with the Bobcats, and that didn't work out. He's not on the team anymore. Whatever happens is on him and only him.
If everything someone did was only "on them," Mike Kramer would still be the head coach.
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Hence why I said the originators rant was misguided.
And to clarify, Kramer was no saint, I haven't forgotten anything about that era, because it was a dark time. I'm simply highlighting the fact that accountability goes far beyond the individual when you are talking about something like a football team, especially this team.
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Re: Peter Fields
Fortunately for that Cats today and tomorrow, none of this matters AT ALL.
So... Carry on complaining about a failed student athlete that made a terrible bomb.
It isn't the MSU athletic systems f*cking fault. Are you kidding me!!!!!!
So... Carry on complaining about a failed student athlete that made a terrible bomb.
It isn't the MSU athletic systems f*cking fault. Are you kidding me!!!!!!
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Re: Peter Fields
Does Marino get a few days to go through the withdrawal process from school if he chooses to do so? Does he get a few days to pack up his personal belongings in preparation to move back home? Sheesh - MSU clearly took a gamble here that did not pay off, but let's not go insane about it. Holy crap.slccat wrote:First Post on BCN and probably my last, but I cannot let this one go. Garrett Marino gets kicked off the team and they revoke his scholly on Tuesday. He gets arrested last night night! Why is he still in Bozeman? Shouldn't Peter Fields have had someone personally make sure the kid was sent to the airport and sent off? I am not justifying anything he did, but it sounds like they just totally gave up on this kid and said figure it out kid! While a lot of kids have the means to get home I have no idea if he did or not, but shouldn't the athletic department step up and make sure this kid gets home? Now he has a fun court date to deal with! Hope you get your life figured out Marino. You obviously have some anger issues to work through and I hope you realize that.
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Re: Peter Fields
His tuition is paid, regardless if by the athletic department, Marino or both. That being the case I don't see any reason he can't stay in school until the end of the semimester should he want to, and even beyond........on his own dime. He wasn't banished from the university. Can't see the athletic department asking the registar for their money back.
In any case, I believe Marino left the football team pretty much the same guy as the one who came to Bozeman. He had a great opportunity and it didn't work out. Happens all the time....=life.
In any case, I believe Marino left the football team pretty much the same guy as the one who came to Bozeman. He had a great opportunity and it didn't work out. Happens all the time....=life.
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The Google tells me it was DUI. 10/18 at 2:29AM.Bay Area Cat wrote:Setting aside the fact that I think you are forgetting a lot about the Kramer years (a lot of what happened was by coaches and players on the team at the time, not by guys that had been kicked off already as is the situation we are talking about), I will happily concede that a person could argue that the coaches are at fault for bringing that guy into Bozeman in the first place (which is why I said that in my post). That said, I'm not aware of this guy having any criminal record in the past, so it would be a stretch to say that the coaches would have known that him getting arrested was a likely result of recruiting him. He came in as a known academic risk -- not necessarily as a behavior risk.FTG06' wrote:While slccat's rant is misguided, you are wrong. What happens after a guy leaves the team should be a reflection of the leadership of the team, and that the team took care of someone who was once part of the team.Bay Area Cat wrote:I think it's illegal to kidnap somebody -- neither the coaches nor Peter Fields (who is strangely being called out here -- if anything, wouldn't this be on the coaches for recruiting him?) have no power to tell people who aren't on the team where they can or can't go. He didn't get kicked out of school, did he? It would be quite bizarre (and a total contradiction to the ethos of "student-athletes") if the athletic department kidnapped a student and shipped them out of Bozeman during the middle of a school week.slccat wrote:First Post on BCN and probably my last, but I cannot let this one go. Garrett Marino gets kicked off the team and they revoke his scholly on Tuesday. He gets arrested last night night! Why is he still in Bozeman? Shouldn't Peter Fields have had someone personally make sure the kid was sent to the airport and sent off?
The reality is that he was given a chance with the Bobcats, and that didn't work out. He's not on the team anymore. Whatever happens is on him and only him.
If everything someone did was only "on them," Mike Kramer would still be the head coach.
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What did he get arrested for? I assume it was some sort of bar fight? Or was it something potentially even worse like torture/murder or being a part of a large drug ring made up of current and former players or selling meth on a recruiting trip?
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Well for sure all of Marino's problems are Peter Fields fault. After all he was only reprimanded for his behavior 4 or 5 times. If only Fields would have just talked to the kid and explained things, the kid would have turned this around long ago. When people say that someone needs to take responsibility for their own actions, they are naive. After all it takes a village.
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Yes, it is a generally accepted principle of human development that nothing can be done about someone's "condition" until they want to do something about it. Also, I think it is simply basic respect.slccat wrote:First Post on BCN and probably my last, but I cannot let this one go. Garrett Marino gets kicked off the team and they revoke his scholly on Tuesday. He gets arrested last night night! Why is he still in Bozeman? Shouldn't Peter Fields have had someone personally make sure the kid was sent to the airport and sent off? I am not justifying anything he did, but it sounds like they just totally gave up on this kid and said figure it out kid! While a lot of kids have the means to get home I have no idea if he did or not, but shouldn't the athletic department step up and make sure this kid gets home? Now he has a fun court date to deal with! Hope you get your life figured out Marino. You obviously have some anger issues to work through and I hope you realize that.
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That made me laugh out loud.bcatfan1 wrote:Wow. Great logic. Sounds like an old movie where the sheriff drops a bum off at the county line and tells him not to come back to these parts. Not sure Fields has that authority. [WINKING FACE]
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Re: Peter Fields
slccat wrote:First Post on BCN and probably my last, but I cannot let this one go. Garrett Marino gets kicked off the team and they revoke his scholly on Tuesday. He gets arrested last night night! Why is he still in Bozeman? Shouldn't Peter Fields have had someone personally make sure the kid was sent to the airport and sent off? I am not justifying anything he did, but it sounds like they just totally gave up on this kid and said figure it out kid! While a lot of kids have the means to get home I have no idea if he did or not, but shouldn't the athletic department step up and make sure this kid gets home? Now he has a fun court date to deal with! Hope you get your life figured out Marino. You obviously have some anger issues to work through and I hope you realize that.
And here's the problem with the world. Personal responsibility apparently isn't expected anymore. This was Garrett Marino's fault. No one else's. He can handle it, and maybe this is just the thing he needed, to help him grow up.