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Re: McGhee shines on MSU Pro Day (Free)

Post by Hi-Line Bobcat » Thu Apr 17, 2014 3:21 pm

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Hi-Line Bobcat wrote:Speaking of Ellis does anybody find it odd he is on the promotional picture on the back of the scoreboard?
I believe that is Shawn Johnson who switched to #4 for his senior year.
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Re: McGhee shines on MSU Pro Day (Free)

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Hi-Line Bobcat wrote:Speaking of Ellis does anybody find it odd he is on the promotional picture on the back of the scoreboard?
I found it odd that he was a starting wide receiver for three years, so even if that wasn't Shawn Johnson on the poster, I wouldn't be all that surprised by it.


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Re: McGhee shines on MSU Pro Day (Free)

Post by Hi-Line Bobcat » Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:16 pm

BLACKnBLUEnGOLD wrote:
Hi-Line Bobcat wrote:Speaking of Ellis does anybody find it odd he is on the promotional picture on the back of the scoreboard?
I found it odd that he was a starting wide receiver for three years, so even if that wasn't Shawn Johnson on the poster, I wouldn't be all that surprised by it.
As bad as it sounds I 100% agree with you!!


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Re: McGhee shines on MSU Pro Day (Free)

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Hi-Line Bobcat wrote:Speaking of Ellis does anybody find it odd he is on the promotional picture on the back of the scoreboard?
I found it odd that he was a starting wide receiver for three years, so even if that wasn't Shawn Johnson on the poster, I wouldn't be all that surprised by it.
As bad as it sounds I 100% agree with you!!
He was a starter because he was about the only WR we had that could actually 'try' and stretch the field deep (after Elvis graduated). However, he was so short it was hard to put long passes over the defender and allow him to catch it unless they had an angled route. They did work on that last year though and were getting higher trajectories on the passes.



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Re: McGhee shines on MSU Pro Day (Free)

Post by bobcat99 » Fri Apr 18, 2014 7:23 pm

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TomCat88 wrote:I see in the article by Colter that McGhee ran a time in the shuttle that would've been the fastest at the Combine for a QB and that Gale's bench reps would've been the best at the combine for OLBs and his 40 time would've been the 6th best, but it was hand-timed.

Edit: Just noticed that McGhee's 37.5 vert and 10'2" standing broad jump would've been the best at the Combine for QBs. I imagine his shuttle time was measured the same way as they do at the Combine. Anyone know?
I got the impression from Colter's article and tweets that he was timing it himself, and that the official times of the shuttle and cone drills were not shared with spectators/media. So it seems to me that no, they weren't timed the same way.
Thanks. The bench, vertical and broad jump measurements are solid, but I don't know how significant they are. Will the scouts be impressed that McGhee and Gale put up better numbers in those areas than the players invited to the Combine? Colter said McGhee was throwing the ball well, but I'm not sure if he was any better than the guys testing around the country at Pro Days or the Combine. Anyone know how he stacked up in that area?
They may be impressed, but I don't know how much good it will do. Neither of them had that impressive of a senior year. McGhee obviously has the best chance, I would imagine Gale's chances are somewhere between slim and none.



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Re: McGhee shines on MSU Pro Day (Free)

Post by catsrback76 » Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:40 am

Colter, I am curious about a comment you made in the article about McGhee's release being "different from the one that Cramsey" had him working on last year. What was the difference?



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Post by John K » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:38 am

catsrback76 wrote:Colter, I am curious about a comment you made in the article about McGhee's release being "different from the one that Cramsey" had him working on last year. What was the difference?
I was curious about that too.



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Re: McGhee shines on MSU Pro Day (Free)

Post by John K » Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:25 am

[cat_bracket] wrote:He does that often. Every time I see it I just think of how it's just that much more motivation for our players.
Oh come on...I can't believe some of you guys are butt hurt about that one paragraph. We should be more upset about the way the season ended, than about Colter mentioning the way the season ended. It was completely relevant too, since part of his Pro Day story line focused on these players getting one more chance to compete on that field, after their last experience on it ended on a sour note.



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Re: McGhee shines on MSU Pro Day (Free)

Post by bobcat99 » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:01 am

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[cat_bracket] wrote:He does that often. Every time I see it I just think of how it's just that much more motivation for our players.
Oh come on...I can't believe some of you guys are butt hurt about that one paragraph. We should be more upset about the way the season ended, than about Colter mentioning the way the season ended. It was completely relevant too, since part of his Pro Day story line focused on these players getting one more chance to compete on that field, after their last experience on it ended on a sour note.
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Re: McGhee shines on MSU Pro Day (Free)

Post by [cat_bracket] » Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:53 am

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[cat_bracket] wrote:He does that often. Every time I see it I just think of how it's just that much more motivation for our players.
Oh come on...I can't believe some of you guys are butt hurt about that one paragraph. We should be more upset about the way the season ended, than about Colter mentioning the way the season ended. It was completely relevant too, since part of his Pro Day story line focused on these players getting one more chance to compete on that field, after their last experience on it ended on a sour note.
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Uhh, what? What I said is exactly true and I wasn't even criticizing Colter. He mentions that we lost our last three and to UM or makes some reference to the season ending in bitter fashion in almost every article he writes. It doesn't bother me in the least because, like I said, I see it as a way to motivate our players. When they see that in the media it's a lot different than hearing it from each other.

How you interpret that to me being butt hurt is quite amazing. Sounds more like you two are butt hurt that someone (not me) was critical of Colter's writing. Since you're drawing a line in the sand, does this now mean that we won't get the pleasure of hearing you two criticize anyone ever again?



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Re: McGhee shines on MSU Pro Day (Free)

Post by John K » Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:58 am

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[cat_bracket] wrote:He does that often. Every time I see it I just think of how it's just that much more motivation for our players.
Oh come on...I can't believe some of you guys are butt hurt about that one paragraph. We should be more upset about the way the season ended, than about Colter mentioning the way the season ended. It was completely relevant too, since part of his Pro Day story line focused on these players getting one more chance to compete on that field, after their last experience on it ended on a sour note.
Logic isn't allowed here.
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Uhh, what? What I said is exactly true and I wasn't even criticizing Colter. He mentions that we lost our last three and to UM or makes some reference to the season ending in bitter fashion in almost every article he writes. It doesn't bother me in the least because, like I said, I see it as a way to motivate our players. When they see that in the media it's a lot different than hearing it from each other.

How you interpret that to me being butt hurt is quite amazing. Sounds more like you two are butt hurt that someone (not me) was critical of Colter's writing. Since you're drawing a line in the sand, does this now mean that we won't get the pleasure of hearing you two criticize anyone ever again?
The way the season ended is a huge part of the story line, any time someone is discussing the 2013 MSU football season, so I completely understand why Colter mentions it often, and again, it was very relevant to his "Pro Day" piece. In the stories that he wrote following the 2012 season, I'd bet that you would find an equal number of references to MSU's 3rd straight BSC title/playoff appearance, because that would have been a big part of the story line a year ago.

You're perfectly entitled to criticize Colter's writing, just as I'm entitled to disagree with your criticism. And trust me, I get as "butt hurt" as anyone when I sense Griz bias in the media. I just don't happen to believe that this was an example of that. This would probably seem really trivial to many people, but it aggravated the hell out of me. One of the local GF TV stations did an academic-themed story on UM recently, and right at the end of the segment the news girl blurted out "Go Griz!!". I thought it was extremely unprofessional. and it was completely out of context since the piece had nothing to do with UM athletics, and I wouldn't have been very pleased with her if I was the GM or News Director of that station.



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Re: McGhee shines on MSU Pro Day (Free)

Post by [cat_bracket] » Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:38 pm

John K wrote:
[cat_bracket] wrote:
bobcat99 wrote:
John K wrote:
[cat_bracket] wrote:He does that often. Every time I see it I just think of how it's just that much more motivation for our players.
Oh come on...I can't believe some of you guys are butt hurt about that one paragraph. We should be more upset about the way the season ended, than about Colter mentioning the way the season ended. It was completely relevant too, since part of his Pro Day story line focused on these players getting one more chance to compete on that field, after their last experience on it ended on a sour note.
Logic isn't allowed here.
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Uhh, what? What I said is exactly true and I wasn't even criticizing Colter. He mentions that we lost our last three and to UM or makes some reference to the season ending in bitter fashion in almost every article he writes. It doesn't bother me in the least because, like I said, I see it as a way to motivate our players. When they see that in the media it's a lot different than hearing it from each other.

How you interpret that to me being butt hurt is quite amazing. Sounds more like you two are butt hurt that someone (not me) was critical of Colter's writing. Since you're drawing a line in the sand, does this now mean that we won't get the pleasure of hearing you two criticize anyone ever again?
The way the season ended is a huge part of the story line, any time someone is discussing the 2013 MSU football season, so I completely understand why Colter mentions it often, and again, it was very relevant to his "Pro Day" piece. In the stories that he wrote following the 2012 season, I'd bet that you would find an equal number of references to MSU's 3rd straight BSC title/playoff appearance, because that would have been a big part of the story line a year ago.

You're perfectly entitled to criticize Colter's writing, just as I'm entitled to disagree with your criticism. And trust me, I get as "butt hurt" as anyone when I sense Griz bias in the media. I just don't happen to believe that this was an example of that. This would probably seem really trivial to many people, but it aggravated the hell out of me. One of the local GF TV stations did an academic-themed story on UM recently, and right at the end of the segment the news girl blurted out "Go Griz!!". I thought it was extremely unprofessional. and it was completely out of context since the piece had nothing to do with UM athletics, and I wouldn't have been very pleased with her if I was the GM or News Director of that station.
Yes, I know I'm entitled to criticize Colter, however, I wasn't in this instance, which is why I responded. I actually like it that he does simply because I'm certain the players are motivated by it. They say they're motivated by how the season ended, so when they're reminded of it by the media or anyone outside their inner circle, it gets their juices flowing.

Saying "Go Griz" isn't restrained to sports, but a professional TV announcer shouldn't yell that.



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Post by Bobcat Jim » Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:15 am

Seattle trades 7th round pick to the Raiders for Terrelle Pryor, so it looks like McGhee isn't on their radar.



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Post by allcat » Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:32 am

Bobcat Jim wrote:Seattle trades 7th round pick to the Raiders for Terrelle Pryor, so it looks like McGhee isn't on their radar.
McGhee is not going to get drafted, so it's hard to tell who is loking at a free agent deal.


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Re: McGhee shines on MSU Pro Day (Free)

Post by Colter_Nuanez » Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:14 am

DeNarius has been in touch with Seattle, Minnesota and Dallas pretty heavily in recent weeks.

During MSU's pro day, they hustled the guys through all the drills really quickly. The scouts gave absolutely zero explanation of what each drill entailed and seemed to be pretty uninterested in what everyone was doing aside from DeNarius. They wanted to get all the tests out of the way quickly so they could watch DMac throw. When he was throwing, the Seattle guy put on the drill and watched him very closely.

I wouldn't count out his chances of landing with the Seahawks as an undrafted free agent. Next season, Tavaris Jackson is on the books for $1.25 million. Terrelle Pryor will get paid $705,000. Russell Wilson, perhaps the best bargain in pro sports history, will get paid $662,434. With Wilson in a contract year, Seattle will be looking to find a new third-string QB that they don't have to pay more than a million like Jackson. That could be McGhee's niche if he could make the practice squad then be a league-minimum third-string guy behind Wilson and Pryor. Seattle will be looking to get Jackson off the books one way or another to clear up space for what should be a multi-year monster contract for Wilson.



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Post by Walk-on » Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:53 am

Did they measure Denarius' hands? Sometimes they do that. If they've seen the backwards passes I would think they would measure.


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Post by tdub » Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:03 am

Colter_Nuanez wrote:DeNarius has been in touch with Seattle, Minnesota and Dallas pretty heavily in recent weeks.

During MSU's pro day, they hustled the guys through all the drills really quickly. The scouts gave absolutely zero explanation of what each drill entailed and seemed to be pretty uninterested in what everyone was doing aside from DeNarius. They wanted to get all the tests out of the way quickly so they could watch DMac throw. When he was throwing, the Seattle guy put on the drill and watched him very closely.

I wouldn't count out his chances of landing with the Seahawks as an undrafted free agent. Next season, Tavaris Jackson is on the books for $1.25 million. Terrelle Pryor will get paid $705,000. Russell Wilson, perhaps the best bargain in pro sports history, will get paid $662,434. With Wilson in a contract year, Seattle will be looking to find a new third-string QB that they don't have to pay more than a million like Jackson. That could be McGhee's niche if he could make the practice squad then be a league-minimum third-string guy behind Wilson and Pryor. Seattle will be looking to get Jackson off the books one way or another to clear up space for what should be a multi-year monster contract for Wilson.
Seattle only gave up a 7th round pick to Pryor, so there is very little risk for them if Pryor doesn't work out. I'm sure there is some sort of guarantee they will need to pay him even if he doesn't stick with the roster, but the amount is pretty minimal like Colter indicates with the salary level. That pick in the draft is typically a player that is also really fighting for a roster spot. So there is no guarantee that Pryor or Jackson will be on the final roster come fall. Even if they keep one of the two, they can pay near a million dollars less for a guy like McGhee that could be on the practice squad. Having a guy that can run a read-option that can simulate other QB's around the league could be a pretty valuable proposition for a team. How valuable would that be if they were playing against Philadelphia, NY Jets, Carolina, among others that all have mobile read-option QB's.

That all being said, McGhee has a steep uphill climb to stick with a team this coming season. He will have to outshine a lot of people that are blessed with similar talents. McGhee's history of being a great off-season worker will help this cause. History has shown that he will put in the work it needs to be successful. I hope he finds a way....


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Re: McGhee shines on MSU Pro Day (Free)

Post by JDoub » Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:18 pm

I hope McGhee gets a legit shot at the NFL

But I had a dream that two former Bobcat QB's were battling it out in the Grey Cup and for MOP in the CFL

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Post by John K » Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:49 pm

JDoub wrote:I hope McGhee gets a legit shot at the NFL

But I had a dream that two former Bobcat QB's were battling it out in the Grey Cup and for MOP in the CFL

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I too would love to see D-Mac get a shot at the NFL, but it would be fun to see him and TL dueling against each other up north. If D-Mac happened to end up in Calgary, it would make for a great little road trip to go up there sometime when they played BC. Calgary is only about five hours from GF.



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