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Depth now versus in the fall.

Post by Colter_Nuanez » Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:32 am

With all the injuries and the short-handed nature of this spring, I thought of an interesting debate.

Here's how I think Montana State's depth chart will look on the first day of fall camp

LT — John Weidenaar, Dylan Mahoney
LG— Kyle Godecke, Joel Horn
C — Quinn Catalano, Joel Horn
RG — JP Flynn, Doug Hanson
RT — Alex Eekhoff, Caleb Gillis
QB — Dakota Prukop OR Jake Bleskin
RB — Shawn Johnson OR Anthony Knight, Gunnar Brekke
H-Back — Chad Newell, Curtis Amos
TE — Tiai Salanoa, Lee Perkins
WR — Brian Flotkoetter, Mitch Herbert
WR — Mitch Griebel, David Dash
WR — Tanner Roderick, Shadeed Crockett, Kurt Davis

DE — Odin Coe, Luke Halliburton
DE — Zach Hutchins, Garrett Marino
DT — Taylor Sheridan, WaWa Leota
DT — Taylor Dees, Conner Thomas
LB — Alex Singleton, Rhett Young
LB — Na'a Moeakiola, Michael Foster, Rhett Young
LB — Cole Moore, Blake Braun
CB — Deonte Flowers, Jaylen Price
CB — Bryson Keeton, James Nelson
SS — Robert Marshall, Cody Cleveland
FS — Eryon Barnett, Khari Garcia

Here's what it looks like right now
LT — John Weidenaar, Dylan Mahoney
LG— Kyle Godecke, Joel Horn
C — Quinn Catalano OR Joel Horn, Doug Hanson
RG — JP Flynn, Kyle Godecke
RT — Alex Eekhoff OR Quinn Catalano, Caleb Gillis
QB — Dakota Prukop OR Jake Bleskin
RB — Gunnar Brekke, Chad Newell, Nick LaSane, Cody Vitt
TE —  Lee Perkins
WR — Will Krolick, Clay Compton
WR — Mitch Griebel, Jayshawn Gates
WR — Shadeed Crockett, Jacob Stanton

DE — Luke Halliburton, Taylor Dees
DE — Zach Hutchins, Eric Williamson
DT — Taylor Sheridan, Nate Bignell
DT — Taylor Dees, Conner Thomas
LB — Alex Singleton, Robert Walsh
LB — Rhett Young, Trevan Timmer
LB — Blake Braun, Heath Hunter
CB — Deonte Flowers, Jaylen Price
CB — Bryson Keeton, James Nelson
SS — Robert Marshall, Cody Cleveland
FS — Eryon Barnett, Khari Garcia

This spring is a true test of MSU's depth and an exercise in being able to evaluate a slew of young players. So here's my question...with the current spring lineup — an unproven quarterback, veteran offensive line, green RBs and WRs, rookie DEs, short-handed linebackers and a stacked secondary — how many games would Montana State win? None? Could the backups hang with a Big Sky bottom feeder? Interesting question in terms of depth.
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Re: Depth now versus in the fall.

Post by CatBlitz » Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:35 am

With all the injuries we could still beat half of the BSC.

This team needs to find some flow and mesh well in August to be atop 3 team though. With most of the team healthy I'm not worried.

And does this mean you don't think Roderick is coming back?


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Re: Depth now versus in the fall.

Post by Colter_Nuanez » Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:38 am

CatBlitz wrote:With all the injuries we could still beat half of the BSC.

This team needs to find some flow and mesh well in August to be atop 3 team though. With most of the team healthy I'm not worried.

And does this mean you don't think Roderick is coming back?
Got him in my head as a QB, my bad. Yes, he'll start at WR if he's not the QB.



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Re: Depth now versus in the fall.

Post by CatBlitz » Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:39 am

Colter_Nuanez wrote:
CatBlitz wrote:With all the injuries we could still beat half of the BSC.

This team needs to find some flow and mesh well in August to be atop 3 team though. With most of the team healthy I'm not worried.

And does this mean you don't think Roderick is coming back?
Got him in my head as a QB, my bad. Yes, he'll start at WR if he's not the QB.
Gotcha. Just curious.
Whether it's that rumored guy from SMU or not, do you see Ash bringing in a transfer WR if Roderick doesn't play there?


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Re: Depth now versus in the fall.

Post by LTown Cat » Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:41 am

I'll be happily surprised if we don't see a QB and a RB transfer out this summer.



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Re: Depth now versus in the fall.

Post by GRZSLAYER » Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:43 am

Colter_Nuanez wrote:
CatBlitz wrote:With all the injuries we could still beat half of the BSC.

This team needs to find some flow and mesh well in August to be atop 3 team though. With most of the team healthy I'm not worried.

And does this mean you don't think Roderick is coming back?
Got him in my head as a QB, my bad. Yes, he'll start at WR if he's not the QB.

If our linebackers return to full strength. With the CB additions and if...IF Coe returns healthy and Marino shows up in shape I think our defense can be light years better than last year. As for the offense the QB and young WR's will have to mature as the season goes on. BUT....the key to the offense is the O-line taking over for once in their lives. The Cats have a pile of running backs who could lead this team. If I were to guess Knight will start, Lasane, Johnson and Brekke will rotate. That could help carry this team until the offense completely meshes. But........the Cats have a heck of a test early in Arkansas ST, Eastern, and Central Ark. That stretch will make or break the season. Not to mention the 3 games in Cali.


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Re: Depth now versus in the fall.

Post by canyoncat » Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:51 am

I am surprised you didn't list Marshall Womack on the 2 deep for both spring and fall. Was that just an over sight or is he not progressing as we all hoped he would? Also, how is Wyatt Christensen and Trevan Timmer progressing? Are they going to be recovered on time for fall ball?


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Re: Depth now versus in the fall.

Post by [cat_bracket] » Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:22 pm

Colter_Nuanez wrote:With all the injuries and the short-handed nature of this spring, I thought of an interesting debate.

Here's how I think Montana State's depth chart will look on the first day of fall camp

LT — John Weidenaar, Dylan Mahoney
LG— Kyle Godecke, Joel Horn
C — Quinn Catalano, Joel Horn
RG — JP Flynn, Doug Hanson
RT — Alex Eekhoff, Caleb Gillis
QB — Dakota Prukop OR Jake Bleskin
RB — Shawn Johnson OR Anthony Knight, Gunnar Brekke
H-Back — Chad Newell, Curtis Amos
TE — Tiai Salanoa, Lee Perkins
WR — Brian Flotkoetter, Mitch Herbert
WR — Mitch Griebel, David Dash
WR — Tanner Roderick, Shadeed Crockett, Kurt Davis

DE — Odin Coe, Luke Halliburton
DE — Zach Hutchins, Garrett Marino
DT — Taylor Sheridan, WaWa Leota
DT — Taylor Dees, Conner Thomas
LB — Alex Singleton, Rhett Young
LB — Na'a Moeakiola, Michael Foster, Rhett Young
LB — Cole Moore, Blake Braun
CB — Deonte Flowers, Jaylen Price
CB — Bryson Keeton, James Nelson
SS — Robert Marshall, Cody Cleveland
FS — Eryon Barnett, Khari Garcia

Here's what it looks like right now
LT — John Weidenaar, Dylan Mahoney
LG— Kyle Godecke, Joel Horn
C — Quinn Catalano OR Joel Horn, Doug Hanson
RG — JP Flynn, Kyle Godecke
RT — Alex Eekhoff OR Quinn Catalano, Caleb Gillis
QB — Dakota Prukop OR Jake Bleskin
RB — Gunnar Brekke, Chad Newell, Nick LaSane, Cody Vitt
TE —  Lee Perkins
WR — Will Krolick, Clay Compton
WR — Mitch Griebel, Jayshawn Gates
WR — Shadeed Crockett, Jacob Stanton

DE — Luke Halliburton, Taylor Dees
DE — Zach Hutchins, Eric Williamson
DT — Taylor Sheridan, Nate Bignell
DT — Taylor Dees, Conner Thomas
LB — Alex Singleton, Robert Walsh
LB — Rhett Young, Trevan Timmer
LB — Blake Braun, Heath Hunter
CB — Deonte Flowers, Jaylen Price
CB — Bryson Keeton, James Nelson
SS — Robert Marshall, Cody Cleveland
FS — Eryon Barnett, Khari Garcia

This spring is a true test of MSU's depth and an exercise in being able to evaluate a slew of young players. So here's my question...with the current spring lineup — an unproven quarterback, veteran offensive line, green RBs and WRs, rookie DEs, short-handed linebackers and a stacked secondary — how many games would Montana State win? None? Could the backups hand with a Big Sky bottom feeder? Interesting question in terms of depth.
Since you go to all the practices, I'm interested in your answers to those questions.



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Re: Depth now versus in the fall.

Post by Colter_Nuanez » Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:50 pm

canyoncat wrote:I am surprised you didn't list Marshall Womack on the 2 deep for both spring and fall. Was that just an over sight or is he not progressing as we all hoped he would? Also, how is Wyatt Christensen and Trevan Timmer progressing? Are they going to be recovered on time for fall ball?
Womack is in a walking boot and hasn't practiced yet this spring. He came to MSU with a broken hand that required surgery. He hasn't been healthy long enough to make the strides necessary, but if healthy, he'll be a backup left tackle. Side-note on that position — Dylan Mahoney an Caleb Gillis both put on a ton of weight and look much more like college offensive tackles now. Continued maturity could turn them into solid bookends someday. Gillis is a walk-on from Dillon. Mahoney is out of CMR.

Wyatt Christensen hasn't practiced this spring, but has been rehabbing hard. He's on track to be back by the fall. Trevan Timmer is fully heathy. He's currently MSU's second-string middle linebacker behind Rhett Young with Na'a Moeakiola and Michael Foster on the shelf.



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Re: Depth now versus in the fall.

Post by Jobu » Wed Apr 02, 2014 2:21 pm

That's good news, Colter. He'll add needed depth at MLB.


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Post by bertram » Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:18 pm

Word is that Shadeed Crockett is no longer with the team, and is currently enrolled at NDSU



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Post by Hawks86 » Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:24 pm

Took awhile for that word to get around. :coffee:


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Re: Depth now versus in the fall.

Post by TomCat88 » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:11 pm

Hawks86 wrote:Took awhile for that word to get around. :coffee:
:lol: Just shows how slow it is around here in the summer. This is why BN.com is the best source for MSU football news. You need to check in daily to keep up on things.


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Re: Depth now versus in the fall.

Post by allcat » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:41 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
Hawks86 wrote:Took awhile for that word to get around. :coffee:
:lol: Just shows how slow it is around here in the summer. This is why BN.com is the best source for MSU football news. You need to check in daily to keep up on things.
actally, that is the Barnes & Noble website.


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Re: Depth now versus in the fall.

Post by Helcat72 » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:11 pm

Crockett didn't earn a scholarship in the spring so he went back to NDSU where his brother played because he's from Minnesota and can get by with in-state tuition at NDSU.


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